32 Comments on "National Offend A College Student Day"

  1. Re: that book – #buckleywasright

  2. My God, how magnificent and youthful I look. Hair like a Viking!


    We can thank our Ivy forefathers for starting all this sensitivity nonsense

  3. William Richardson | November 11, 2015 at 5:12 pm |

    Do not dare contradict WFBjr as he may clobber you. ;0P

    May I suggest a viewing of the debate between Mr. Buckley and James Baldwin? There is plenty there for those who wish to be offended.

    Cheers gents,


  4. On Saturday nights at college I would often heed the wise words of Reb Buckley:

    “…stay plastered…”

    Now I hope I’m not taking that out of context…

  5. Will,

    If you have a Prime subscription, may I recommend – A Firing Line Debate: Resolved: That the ACLU Is Full of Baloney. Very relevant to what’s happening now.


    This is one where Buckley actually lost, I think. And one where he actually lost his composure and got visibly upset too, walking off stage. This is around the 1:07:30 mark where Ira Glasser accuses him of “not being ready to abandon the ideal of local government in order to kill Jim Crow” in 1961, and continued to heckle him on that point, and he just walked off stage.

    He lost the debate because the issue was regarding free speech and Buckley was on the wrong side of that debate, in my opinion.

  6. William Richardson | November 11, 2015 at 6:39 pm |


    Slightly plastered during composition. Gins and tonics coupled with friends and their young children at the house. Correction duly noted.


  7. Ivy Style’s PC week, held less than a month ago, was prescient. In light of the insanity at Yale and Missouri, will we see a return of the commenters here who contended that PC is just a figment of the imagination? I hope so. Watching them twist themselves into rhetorical pretzels would be enjoyable.

  8. I know I was supposed to find the collection of posts on Twitchy snarky & funny, but they mostly put me to sleep. Wow – college kids are entitled brats, who knew? A plumber will make more than you with your philosophy degree – zing! This is what happens when conservative professional screechers try their hand at comedy. (anyone remember the Fox Half Hour News Hour?)

  9. Taliesin is a moron | November 12, 2015 at 11:36 am |

    Ironically, WFB was Paul Fussell’s counterexample when he coined the term “prole gap.”

  10. Taliesin is a moron | November 12, 2015 at 11:44 am |

    Also, why is there no outrage over the vulgar display of Christian Correctness over the Starbucks cup? I think December 25th this year should be Ivy Style’s official “Offend a Christian Fundamentalist Moonbat” day. Remember, corporations are people with full first amendment rights!

  11. Hey, cool screen name!

  12. Well, this site is devoted to college style and college culture, not “moonbats” (new term for me).

    Given the way this year has gone so far, there will be much War On Christmas talk in the next six weeks. Some instances will sound like Christian Fundamentalist sour grapes, and some will feel like a legitimate gradual erasing of American cultural traditions.

    I don’t understand why Starbucks didn’t just make a “winter cup” with snowflakes. It would have felt perfectly festive for Christians and non-religious to everyone else.

  13. William Richardson | November 12, 2015 at 12:05 pm |

    @Taliesin is a moron

    You must really feel deeply about these things. Peace be with you.


  14. Taliesin is a moron | November 12, 2015 at 12:44 pm |

    Oh joy, looks like now I’m being censored in this apparent haven of free speech.

  15. Taliesin is a moron | November 12, 2015 at 12:49 pm |


    At any rate, this website was better when it was a fashion blog. I think a lot of people share my view and would rather read about sack suits without getting bombarded by right wing propaganda.

  16. OK, your username is based on calling a guy you disagree with a moron, Ivy Style’s editorial is right-wing propoganda, and of course you’re being censored.

  17. Taliesin is a cry baby | November 12, 2015 at 1:08 pm |


    Well I tried having a rational discourse with him, complete with citations. Instead of providing any sort of reasoned responses, he just cried a lot and called me a bully. In my book, that qualifies him as a moron. But I see your point and I have changed my screen name to be more precise.

    Do you have some sort of automatic spam filter? Maybe I unknowingly triggered it.

  18. Is that a straight-up question? Yes a new spam filter was installed a month or so ago. Previously comments with multiple links were held for moderation, but maybe now they’re automatically spammed. If you were citing things with links, you’ll probably want to do it one at a time.

    Not sure what you meant by being censored. I didn’t delete any of your comments — yet!

  19. Unknowingly triggering things is exactly what a politically correct social justice warrior must avoid. Try harder! And in the future, please precede your actions with a trigger warning.

    PS: Love the new username! It’s very cool that you define yourself vis-a-vis Taliesin.

  20. William Richardson | November 12, 2015 at 1:37 pm |

    Writing as a fellow who is quite concerned about, for want of a better term, “The War on Christmas”, I have to say that I do not have a problem with Starbuck’s proposed simple red cup at Christmas. My objection is the un-drinkability of their coffee. I happened to speak to a gentleman who services the machines for Starbucks and he referred to the coffee as Char-bucks. (probably an old joke)

    Trader Joe’s Pinion Coffee or Peet’s Coffee Major Dickison’s Blend is good ground fine in a good French press.


  21. Taliesin is a cry baby | November 12, 2015 at 1:40 pm |

    Trigger Warning: Not Conservatively Correct

    @Christian, yes it was a sincere question. And that does appear to be what happened, so I owe you an apology.

    Out of laziness, I will spare you a litany of posts linking to various incidents of Christian correctness on campuses.

  22. SBUX coffee is as authentic as MCD burgers. They won’t deny that they make their money on quantity and not quality. And they can’t solely rely on the fact that caffeine is addictive. The red cup snafu, if I can call it that, is a one of their silly campaigns to get people talking about them. And as you can see, it’s working. However, I give them credit since it’s a lot more subtle than the #RaceTogether campaign from earlier this year.

    Oh now that really hurt people’s feelings.

  23. Henry Contestwinner | November 12, 2015 at 3:12 pm |

    Nobody is Actually Upset about the Starbucks Cup. Stop Saying Otherwise.

    From a design viewpoint, the cup is bold & simple (in a good way). Not only does it include the traditional colors of Christmas, but it also include the company’s signature green—clever! I don’t patronize Starbucks (I don’t care for certain corporate policies), but I think it’s a very good design.

    Since Christians aren’t actually up in arms about the cup, I suspect that the reaction against the alleged reaction is either a very clever marketing campaign or is a false flag operation started by actual anti-Christmas warriors.

  24. Henry Contestwinner | November 12, 2015 at 3:18 pm |

    P.S.: The first paragraph in my comment above is a link to an article of that name.

  25. No, it’s human nature. People like to be offended since it gives us a reason to talk about ourselves.

    Whether its a red cup, a girl carrying a mattress around campus, a (fake) clock boy, “rape culture” on campus and all their “apologist,” lives of a certain color that matter, war on xmas, war on marriage, flags in South Carolina, Trump’s opinions on immigrants, Halloween costumes, that ethnic-appropriating woman, Sia’s music videos, Bruce Boyer’s collars, AEV’s comments, etc.

    Woody Allen parodied it best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaPBhxXhprg

    Jew eat?

  26. Trigger warning: Not Conservatively Correct

    I would venture to say there are as many people genuinely upset about the Starbucks cup as there are people genuinely upset about Halloween costumes.



  27. “Taliesin is a moron,” “Taliesin is a cry baby,” and “L-feld”. That’s a lot of noms de plume in one thread. I don’t like the third one – it’s very boring.

  28. Henry Contestwinner | November 12, 2015 at 7:28 pm |

    He also goes by “Idiocracy” and “Idiot,” depending on the thread.

    So OK, a very small number of people have their panties in a bunch about the Starbucks red cup. I suspect they got bothered about it after reading the “reactions to the alleged reactions” first.

    Fun fact to know and share: those who call for a secular approach to public acknowledgement or celebration of Christmas are following the Baptist lead.

  29. It’s been decades since I read GAMAY (and life’s too short to read it again), but I’m sure I recall a section in which he argues that Communists shouldn’t be allowed to teach at American universities because everyone knows they themselves don’t really respect free speech, so why should they benefit from it? Kind of ironic that some people regard Buckley as some sort of corrective to those who would impose contemporary speech codes at universities.

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