Ivy Notes S2 E3

This is really part two from The Amazing Tom’s portfolio.

Where do you stand on the buttoned up shirt with no tie thing?  I did it in the 90’s when James Taylor was doing it, I see it making a comeback.  However…

 

It IS a button down. Click on the image to see the article.

Allen Edmonds is collaborating with Barbour.   The result is what looks like a magnificent boot…

 

It’s lined with tartan fabric. It’s $475 which is a lot but my boots, Filson, are near 20 years old and wear perfectly. What I don’t like is that branding on the tongue. First off, if you are tucking the front of your pant leg in so that people can see the tongue, you probably aren’t making enough to blow $475 on a boot. Click on the picture if you are interested in learning more.

 

And an ok-I-guess jacket.

 

Allen Edmonds lost the battle of the bands here. The inside has a big Barbour tag and a very little Edmonds one. Further, the jacket is, “Accented with our tri-color flag at side seam and an anniversary edition pin.” That’s pretty one-sided, right people? Click to see the jacket in more detail. It’s $330.

 

PAYWALL ALERT.  The Wall Street Journal wrote an article on age appropriate clothing.   I’ve observed that age appropriate clothing is a one way street, in that a young person can wear clothing typical associated with an older person, but not vice versa.  Why is this?  I think it has to do with our inherent respect for authenticity.  An older person dressing younger is trying to represent something that isn’t so.  Even the attempt is a warning bell.  A younger person dressing older at least has the handlebars of the future to hold on to – at some point these older clothes will actually be on an older person.

Of course, there is a way to avoid this problem, which is the wear the classics.

 

It got clipped here, but there are two dogs below our intrepid writers making cute faces. ALWAYS a warning sign. Click to go to the article, it is paywalled.

28 Comments on "Ivy Notes S2 E3"

  1. What was the New Yorker cartoon caption?
    Thanks.

  2. The boots are AE’s Higgins Mill model and are offered in many other leathers and colors without the branding. With the exception of the cordovan models, the $475 price remains the same in all variations, but AE constantly runs promotions with significant savings.

    AE is my brand because they make shoes that fit my big dumb feet. The quality of their shoes is not to Alden standards (nor are their prices), but they are a solid, American-made choice that is better than Johnston & Murphy or Cole Hahn..

  3. Joe Friday: ma’am could you describe the bank robber? Anything distinctive about him?
    Bank manager: well, um, you know……there was one thing. He had the collar buttoned on his BOCBD. But he wasn’t wearing a tie.
    Gannon: you mean the little buttons that hold the collar down?
    Bank Manager: No, it wasn’t those. It was the top button on the placket. The one that went around his neck.
    Joe Friday: OK, you’re saying the buttons at the end of the dollar were buttoned, the throat button was buttoned yet he wasn’t wearing a tie?
    Bank Manager: yes. Exactly.
    Friday purses his mouth and shoots a sideways look at Gannon who softly nods his head in comprehension.
    Music director: ok boys! One more one time…..Duntadundun. Dunnnn.

    McGarrett: book ‘im Danno! No….I’ll book ‘im myself.

  4. The Amazing Tom | October 3, 2022 at 10:41 am | Reply

    I must be doing something right. I can afford to live in a community where even the bank robbers are well dressed. No hoodies here. Actually this robber is quite different. Maybe he needed funds for his clothing allowance.

  5. Something looks out of the ordinary on the right hand sleeve of his blazer.

  6. I’m not a WSJ subscriber so I didn’t see the article, but I’d argue that age-appropriate dressing means very little anymore. I see a lot of gray haired folks out there dressing much as I did on weekends in junior high: T-shirts (often emblazoned with something inane or a team logo) and jeans or shorts of unconsidered fit.

    I think the question for me is one of authenticity. If someone attends to how they dress, my hope is that whatever styles they exhibit are congruous with their nature and interests, whatever their age.

    Besides, and more to the Ivy-style point, the people representing the counterculture waves that began in the ’60s are now all in their 70s or 80s.

    • “jeans or shorts of unconsidered fit.”

      This is a brilliant phrase, capturing in remarkably few words the general state of dress in America.

    • You didn’t miss too much by not reading the WSJ article. Although the content of was fine, the stylist’s choices used to illustrate the article suggests that it is only the Uber-wealthy that should take note. On the young man, a t-shirt and trousers outfit with a $1700 price tag (along with another $1700 for the accompanying dog’s leash and collar). On the elder gentleman, approximately $5,000 for his shacket, polo and trousers combo. His accompanying dog was downright slumming it in a $450 Gucci leash.

  7. I replied this morning to this post and it has not appeared while others before and after have. I just tried to email you about it and it bounced. So this is the only other way. What gives?

  8. Charlottesville | October 3, 2022 at 5:31 pm | Reply

    It’s true that Chesterfield is not that far from Charlottesville and I have several similar shirts, but I have an alibi: all of my khakis are cuffed and I was wearing a tie all day on Thursday. Honest.

  9. On the buttoned-up top button with no tie: hard no.
    On the AE/Barbour collaboration: meh.
    On age appropriate clothing: yeah, that sounds right.

  10. I have an alibi – I’d never be caught wearing the cap – even I was robbing a bank.

    I begin to read the WSJ article – and stopped at the sentence “…he likes knitwear because it lets you play with dimensions, “almost like sculpture.” The only thing I want playing with my dimensions is my food. If an article is about how my sweater can be slimming, then I’m not your demo.

    • Ok…Here it is again, sans tie-pohs.

      I have an alibi – I’d never be caught wearing that cap – even if I was robbing a bank.

      I began to read the WSJ article – but stopped at the sentence “…he like knitwear because it lets you play with dimensions, “almost like sculpture.”” The only thing I want playing with my dimension is my food. If an article is about how my sweater can be slimming, then I’m not your demo.

      Thank you.

  11. That Barbour jacket looks awful, probably made in Eastern Europe. It is not, as AE claims, “one of their signature waxed cotton jackets. No member of the Royal Family would wear it. They wear the real signature classics such as the Beaufort, Bedale, Border and Gamefair. Queen Elizabeth II loved her original Beaufort with the Gordon tartan lining. King Charles III loves his patched-up Gamefair. It is no longer available but I have one in pristine condition. They were introduced by Margaret Barbour and are still made in South Shields on Tyneside. Don’t fall for the Allen Edmonds marketing BS. Spend your cash on a genuine British-made Barbour rather that over-priced foreign tat.

  12. One of my pet peeves is men over a certain age (55?) who wear jeans.

    No offense, but if a man is old enough to have grandchildren, please retire the denim.

  13. Phillip makes an excellent point. Barbour casts a wide net to “sea” what they can reel in. The “reel” dealers stick with the classics, while the bottom feeders go for imitation 1953s, A&Es, J &Ms and crap that squirts out of the sweat shops.
    I’m on thin ice here so I’m going to skate fast and head for shore. A word to the wise should be sufficient.
    Out.

  14. Mitchell
    I guess we can’t hangout. I’ll be 71 at Christmas and wear shrink to fit 501 Levi’s. Worse than that, I’ve got a pair of German made heavy leather five pocket jeans with armor inserts.
    That motorcycle collection won’t ride it’s self.
    FYI, I’ve been Ivy style dresser since mid to late 1950s, see it all.

  15. should be “seen it all”

  16. Good read.

  17. I like Barbour quite a bit but I will stick to the non-co-branded versions

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