Following our April Fool’s Day diversion, we return to the topic of UVA with this wonderful find by assistant editor Christopher Sharp. Pictured are caricatures by Carlton Abbott entitled “Typical UVA Students,” which appeared in a 1962 issue of University of Virginia Magazine.
Pictured above is The Ghoul, whose description reads:
Amusements: Bicycling, Chess, Newcomb Hall;
Clothes: Stretch Socks, Leggett’s Galoshes, Clearasil;
Drink: Vanilla, Coke, Teem;
Girls: Night-Stand Books;
Places Never Seen: Cavalier, Down the Road
Next we have The Pseudo:
Amusements: Raven Room, I. M., Cave Club;
Clothes: Ascot, Pipe, Blue Blazer, Yellow Shirt;
Drink: Jack Daniels, Heineken;
Girls: Sweet Briar, Bennett;
Places Never Seen: Gym, Waffle Shop, White Spot
Here’s The Jock:
Amusements: Gym, Weight Room, Pool Parlor, White Spot;
Clothes: UVA Sweatshirts, Leather Sleeve Jackets;
Drink: Sly Fox, Gunther, Black Lab, Orange Ade from the Sandwich Man;
Girls: Bimbos, Lane, Townies;
Places Never Seen: Blair House, Sweet Briar College
And finally The Good Guy:
Amusements: Road Trips, Tube Army R. O. T. C., Italian 1-2;
Clothes: Eljo’s, Weejuns and White Socks, Dickie’s, Old Spice, Frayed Collars;
Drink: V. B., National Boh.;
Girls: Mary Washington, Hollins;
Places Never Seen: Newcomb and Cabell Halls, Library
This is why I never fit in anywhere. I’m a little bit of each of them.
Christian,
What do you think of the Dickies clothes listed on the Ivy Guy?
MGM
Not sure what you mean by what I think of them. Don’t know much about their role during the heyday. Were they more a Southern thing?
I’d like to pretend to be the good guy, but I behave much more like the “ghoul.”
I was wondering if Dickies were popular during the heyday. I don’t know if they were popular in the South. Dickies have khakis listed on their website. Maybe the drawing is referring to a dickie turtleneck?
Also, I met a 30 something, former Cornell lax player who wore Dickies, zip-up vest, and spread collar shirt at Dorrian’s a few weeks ago.
Spread-collar shirt and workwear pants are peccadilloes compared to the grave sin of zip-vest.
It was not without some sadness that I noticed a couple of mentions of the soon to be no more Sweet Briar College.
I realize you covered this in the “From Shoe to Douche” post but zip-vest is part of the new prep uniform.
A lot of traders/finance bros and preps on campus wear the zip-vest.
See Vineyard Vines…
http://fashionweekdaily.com/vineyard-vines-finds-first-home-nyc/
http://archive.fairfieldcountylook.com/index.php/parties/1618-vineyard-vines—true-prep-lisa-birnbach-booksigning
Yes, we wore Dickies trousers and dickeys (false-front turtlenecks) in the 1960s.
@ MG Mitchell: Thanks for the photos of vests. I wear a zippered vest from time to time, especially when traveling. I wear the vest over a long-sleeved shirt. The vest gives me a place to put tickets and other papers where I won’t lose them. It is more comfortable than a sports jackets, which is often too warm on a train or plane. But then I’m not striving to look preppy or to dress as if it were still 1965.
Zip-up vests are fine for outdoor activities of any sort. Zippers above the waist are not appropriate for professional settings. How simple is that?
It is grossly apparent that that Hampden-Sydney College (1776) was left out of the discussion; they still wear khakis, bow ties, Weejuns, or J&H tassels, blue blazers, white button-down shirts, and of course, no socks. And their annual dance is formal. Go figure. One of the last 3 all-men’s colleges left in America. During the Spring and Summer, Khaki shorts are standard, as is the sear-sucker suit. White bucks are not uncommon, too.
Oh, look at the pictures from the 1950s ’till mid-’60s and one might not know the difference in fashion from then and now.
I wore Dickies khakis back in the lates 1960’s and 70’s. A couple years ago, I ordered two pairs of khakis for nostalgia. I’m wearing a pair as I write. They wear like iron, get really comfortable when old and shabby. When new, they’re hard as a rock. (Cotton/polyester blend) The fit is Omar the tentmaker, at least the model I have.
They sell an original khaki, with a button fly and watch pocket, but around $100. Too rich for my frugal budget.
Never liked turtlenecks.
Cheers!
@Wriggles
Glad to see you refer to them as khakis. We never called them chinos.
Your “Omar the tentmaker” allusion brought a smile to my face.
This label might bring a smile to yours:
http://www.logosdatabase.com/logoimages/80980019.jpg
I’ve always thought that chinos and khakis are two different things. There is some discussion here:
http://www.orvis.com/news/products-we-love/chino-vs-khaki-do-you-know-the-difference/
Also “khaki” seems to imply a certain color, whereas chinos can come in any color, white, red, green, navy blue etc.
It has long seemed to me that the “difference” between chinos and khakis was more or less the same as the “difference” between candy stripe and university stripe: the same thing, with one preferred over the other based on region or dialect, distinguished by only a few.*
I have no problem with those who say they are different, but that difference appears to be maintained by only a small minority. Having said that, khaki is also a color, while chino definitely is not.
*Over at Oxford Cloth Button Down’s joint, they’ve discovered that university stripe is J Press’ term for an Oxford clothÃ¥ candy stripe.
@Henry
How right you are about the “difference” between chinos and khakis.
Chinos is a term used often, but I have always referred to fabric as drill cloth or just drill.
Henry is correct about the color khaki.
The “university stripe” vs “candy stripe” debate goes on, but I never heard the latter term referring to the same shirts till I found this blog. I know a candy stripe when I see it, but it’s not a “university stripe”. 😉
Nice to see the paleo versions of the local fauna. I think types 1 and 2 have vanished entirely, but 3 and 4 are still extant in one mutated form or another. Sadly many of the places mentioned are no more and some, including as noted by Mr. Denton Sweet Briar College, are on borrowed time. I am pleased to say that the White Spot (a local lunch counter revered for dispensing such hangover remedies as the breakfast known on the menu as “One Hell of a Mess” and burgers & fries into the wee hours) is still going strong. I am also glad to hear from Mr. Carter that Hampden-Sydney is maintaining the traditions. Washington & Lee, where I spent a few of my formative years, still manages to hold on to some of the old ways as well, but probably not to the same extent. Alumni weekends, however, remain a sea OCBDs, Weejuns and bowties.
@ Charlottesville
It’s been over 25 years since I was there, but you may still find a few type 1 “Ghouls” lurking in Thornton Hall and the Mechanical Engineering building. Can you still get a “Grillswith” (grill-fried glazed donut, topped with a scoop of vanilla ice cream) at the White Spot?
@BSAE 87
I have not explored the Grillswith, but will check out the menus board on my next visit. I typically go for the cheeseburger or chili dog at lunchtime, and eschew dessert. You are no-doubt correct about the ghouls. I rarely venture over to the Engineering side of the grounds, but members of the socks and sandles set sometimes cycle past.
I know very well what National Boh is, but what’s “V.B.”?
@BSAE 87: As of 2007, when I left C’ville, the Grillswith was going strong, even under the White Spot’s new management. They added a few items to the menu, but they kept all the classics. Elvis, though, left the building somewhere around 2003.