While other indendent menswear stores are shuttering their doors, O’Connell’s is seeking to expand. Fueled by ecommerce from guys like you, the business has submitted plans to the city to construct a two-story addition to its Main Street, Buffalo location.
The Buffalo News (from where the above image is taken) has the full story here. — CC
This is good news. On another note, I hope Brooks makes it to 200.
A great store with great customer service. I hope they continue to thrive!
Also, it would be nice if they opened a store closer to civilization (Manhattan).
Bravo! Long live the Prep.
Construction coming–time for a warehouse sale. Free up some space. How ’bout it?
GS
Woody’s a great ivy men’s shop Headquartered was in Manhattan, Kansas, with shops in Ames, Iowa, Columbia & St. Louis, Missouri. Unfortunately they didn’t make it through the end of the Carter years. 😉
O’Connell’s is my go to shop. They don’t discriminate against us “deplorables”, very top drawer of them. 😉
The so-called “deplorables” are the racists, misogynists, homophobes, and xenophobes following Trump. By saying “us deplorables” (please speak for yourself, by the way), are you saying you identify with that group?
Oh come on ABTF, quit sugar-coating it and tell us what you really think.
@Mac McConnell sorry to hear about Woody’s, at least it didn’t have suffer the extra long lapels and baby’s fist tie knots of the 1970’s. And good on O’Connell’s, finally a shop where a “deplorable” youth like myself can shop.
Also, the so-called “deplorables” are Americans no less and were all unfairly branded as awful people. No one could make a claim about an entire group of people with validity.
To say that all of Trump’s supporters fit all of those horrible adjectives would be ludicrous. Again, one cannot brand an entire group, that is blatant stereotyping.
Correction: to say that all of Trump’s supporters fit all or any of those horrible adjectives is absurd.
We know what those deplorable people mean when they say “Make America Great Again” Deplorable , racist phobic, phobiests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87TIW6FJK3M
She said half (not all) fit in that basket. Sounds about right from what I’ve seen and heard. And while they may be Americans, that doesn’t give anyone a pass to unbridled their bigotry, does it? Take the Nazis, for example. Did anyone say, “Oh, it’s okay. They’re Germans after all?” I don’t think so.
Sure, invoke the Nazis that’s a reasonable comparison. All I know is that this election is about culture more than politics. She represents the status quo of politically correct, ultra sensitivity and he represents brazen outspokenness. They’re both terrible choices for president but we need a change. Also, who’s to say that her supports aren’t bigots? We don’t know the specifics of either candidates supporters.
@George because Bill Clinton says “Make America Great Again” is racist so it must be true. I don’t think that making American great again means bringing back segregation and other backwards laws. If Trump were elected president there is no way that he would even be able to do that. That isn’t what he and his followers represent.
Also, what you’ve “heard” undoubtedly is coming from a blatantly biased mainstream media source. I would hope that it is obvious to you by now that all of the major media networks are in Hillary’s pocket.
Like it or not, the Nazis are an apt analogy. It’s why the so-called ‘alt right’ is so enamored with Trump — he plays to their “cultural” values. I don’t want that culture, thank you. And, the media doesn’t appear to me to “be in Hillary’s pocket”. Trump’s strategy is to get all the free media he can, and the media falls all over itself to comply. What it shows is a guy with absolutely no self-control. It isn’t about culture; it’s about personal power. And Trump has always been a whore for self aggrandizement and personal power.
@GS go back and reread my post with a dose of sarcasm ( and watch the video I linked to till the end)
And watch this xenophobic hate speech (sarcasm again)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3yesvvYEvs
The alt-right is comprised of mostly teenage trolls who cannot be taken seriously as they have no power. Also the alt-right is not “half” of Trump’s support base we don’t know exact numbers but I’m sure it’s less than that. The alt-right is looked down upon by normal conservatives and by no means do they represent the true right. You must not be paying too much attention to the media’s coverage of him because it is all slanderous and negative, versus their coverage of Hillary which is never anything but positive. Take The Washington Post’s article on her health where they still find the time to bash Trump. You are correct in stating that it is also about personal power both Hillary and Trump are power hungry, she got a taste for the office of president back in the 90’s and now she wants it all. Trump already has enough power in his own right, he’s no politician he doesn’t need the money, fame or power of being president. His motives for being president are to help his country and end PC culture, which is something should concern us all. Hillary is a politician who needs this job to stay relevant and keep her income high.
@George I’m sorry, it’s early for me my sarcasm detector wasn’t working properly.
Also, here’s the WP article. Tell me that they don’t get off topic towards the end:
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/clinton-falls-ill-during-911-memorial-service-in-new-york/2016/09/11/a52e09c2-7855-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html?client=safari
And as for your Nazi theory read this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
“It isn’t about culture; it’s about personal power. And Trump has always been a whore for self aggrandizement and personal power.”
The Clintons aren’t grifters who have whored for self aggrandizement and personal power or seem to lose or destroy public documents under subpoena.
All this alt-right talk is just like the Hillary’s “vast right wing conspiracy” or war on women or “put blacks back in chains” talk. If one believes in the US Constitution and the rule of law one is now a bigot. Sure the left is so tolerant. The problem is the elite are incapable of understanding much less governing a country they’ve never been to.
@Mac amen, and now that we know that she has a serious health issue, the leftist media is admiring that they were wrong about calling it a conspiracy theory. However they’re taking it with a grain of salt and still bashing Trump. The Clintons are true politicians who have made a living off of greed. They are opportunists plain and simple.
*admitting, they are admiring her as well though.
LOL, is that really the best that can be said when one criticizes Trump — Hillary is no good either? Every time I hear that I think it’s just the mindless lock-stepping of the jack boots marching down the autobahn.
Hey, I didn’t encourage the alt right to embrace Trump; they did it all by themselves because he parrots the same ‘values’ they do. Who is David Duke, by the way. I do agree with you on one thing, at least: the elite are incapable of understanding a country they have never been to. Nice to see Trump visit Detroit last week.
“SPENGLER: Deplorably, Trump Is Going To Win.
You can’t win an American presidential election without the deplorables’ vote. Deplorables are America’s biggest minority. They might even be the American majority. They may or not be racist, homophobic and so forth, but they know they’re deplorable. Deplorable, and proud. They’re the median family whose real income has fallen deplorably by 5% in the past ten years, the 35% of adult males who deplorably have dropped out of the labor force, the 40% of student debtors who deplorably aren’t making payments on their loans, the aging state and local government workers whose pension funds are $4 trillion short. They lead deplorable lives and expect that their kids’ lives will be even more deplorable than theirs.”
“They even forgive Hillary for losing tens of thousands of compromising emails on an illegal private server and then repeatedly lying about it in a way that insults the deplorable intelligence of the average voter. But the one thing you can’t do is spit on them and tell them it’s raining. They’ll never forgive you for that. They’re hurting, and they rankle at candidates who rub their faces in it.”
posted by Glenn Reynolds
Posted at 11:00 pm by Glenn Reynolds
Actually, that looks like it was published here first, at least that is what the copyright at the bottom says:
http://atimes.com/2016/09/deplorably-trump-is-going-to-win/
Did the academic lawyer plagiarize?
Or maybe it was published here first?
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/09/11/spengler-deplorably-trump-is-going-to-win/
I guess one will never know, or care.
Typical Trumperism Tactics. Party on.
Did you even read Godwin’s Law? Both candidates are not great that is true but Hillary is the status quo. Whereas the Obama administration is known for coninciding with times of racial tension, I’m sure the Hillary Clinton administration would bring on gender tension. Oh and you must have heard of Robert Byrd, Hillary’s so-called mentor. He was a grand dragon of the KKK whereas David Duke merry supported Trump. Just like the Orlando night club killers father supports Hillary.
*merely
“Who is David Duke, by the way.” He is a southern racist and not part of the so called “alt-right”. I go the that “alt-right site Breitbart, they make fun of the David Dukes of the world, as do most right sites. Trump has denounced Duke.
Has Hillary denounced the CPUSA’s endorsement or every other Marxist based organisation? How about Soros’s and his fellow travelers? Of course not, but the press thinks Duke is an issue.
The Alt-right is actually the alternative press that is not slave to the leftist-Democrat party line like the mainstream media is. Case in point, till yesterday the MSM line was to discuss Hillary’s health was sexist, now not so much.
@A Bridge Too Far
Glenn Reynolds didn’t plagiarize, nor did I. Note that David P. Goldman goes by the pseudonym Spengler. People that read Instapundit know that.
You see, this is the thing with Trumpettes: the facts get conveniently twisted to fit the cause. Since you raise him, let’s take an accurate look at Senator Bryd, who was indeed a friend and mentor of Hillary:
Yes, he was a member of the KKK and did encourage others to join the KKK. But in later life, he came to realize that that kind of racism and bigotry (now, apparently a part of the Republican platform) was unacceptable and not what he was about. Senator Bryd stated numerous times that racism should not be tolerated.
“I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times … and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.” Robert C. Bryd.
Personally, I admire people–especially leaders–who change for the better.
At his death, the NAACP said:
“The NAACP is saddened by the passing of United States Senator Robert Byrd … Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation.” Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country.
“Senator Byrd came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda, doing well on the NAACP Annual Civil Rights Report Card. He stood with us on many issues of crucial importance to our members from the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, the historic health care legislation of 2010 and his support for the Hate Crimes Prevention legislation …”
I apologize for my error, Mac. I didn’t know that.
It’s true and unfair that Breitbart is branded as being alt-right simply because they’re seemingly the only true conservative voice out there right now. Fox can’t always be counted on.
Branding the entire Republican Party as bigots is ignorant seeing as Democrats were the KKK’s original members. Lest we forget that the Republicans fought for emancipation and how Democrat mayors of cities such as Chicago and Detroit have done nothing to stop black on black crime. And yes what of Omar Mateen’s father and the Communist Party supporting Hillary? Is there a way that you can whitewash them as well?
Andrew Breitbart was a true conservative. Personally, I didn’t agree with his views, but respected him and his views. What Breitbart has morphed into is laughable (and deplorable, fer sure), like Fox. It’s also sad, as real conservatives have become overwhelmed by or have just given in to the extreme bully tactics of the current campaign.
Breitbart fook on the tough role of being Trump’s only supporter while the rest of the media bashes him. It is far more reliable than the mainstream media that flip flops as we are seeing now with Hillary’s health.
GS, those “southern democrats” haven’t been democrats since 1964. They all moved over to the Republican Party after LBJ pushed through civil rights.
Question: What happened to the argument about Byrd?
So many times Trump has said something untrue or outlandish and once it’s pointed out as untrue, he throws yet another plate of spaghetti against the wall hoping something will stick.
My option on Byrd still stands as he was a KKK member who suported Hillary despite having a change of heart. Donald Trump has denounced David Duke and Duke even said that he doesn’t entirely support Trump. He said that Trump is “too kind to the Jews” which is an awful thing to say seeing as Trump has Jewish grandchildren. Where’syour answer on Seddique Mateen and the Communist Party? What attracted them to Hillary and has she denounced them? Hillary supporters love to denounce everything the right says as theories until they come true and blow up in their faces, i.e. hear health.
Also, you must know that Johnson was another Democrat opportunist who passed Civil Rights to lock up the black vote for years to come. Lincoln did not have such thoughts when he freed the salves. Johnson was a true southerner, those southern democrats were his ilk. He was picked for vp as a foil to Kennedy, he picked up the southern democrat votes. You cannot even begin compare Hillary’s pile of lies to Trump’s lies.
*her
A Bridge Too Far
The fallacy is that blacks and whites in the south flipped parties because of civil rights laws. Civil rights laws have continually been passed since the 1800s. The vast majority of blacks flipped in the 1930s because of FDR’s New Deal, “free stuff”. So for over thirty years they put up with Jim Crow and still voted for democrats who enforced it.
On the other hand, Nixon didn’t flip whites, nor did civil rights laws. Economics did, if one studies southern white party voting habits by county one sees a steady rise in republican voting corresponding to the south’s improvements economically post WWII, ie a growing middle class. Nixon did benefit from it becoming the majority along with the new left’s riots.
As a Christian I believe in redemption, so I give Byrd the benefit of the doubt. How about Harry Truman or Hugo Black? Not to mention the thousands of other democrat pols that had their particular reasons be it racism, anti semitism, anti-Catholic, prohibitionist or just one party control.
In the 50s having lived in the Mississippi delta and seen KKK members walking downtown in sheets without hoods shopping, most were poor white trash. They were democrat enforcers much like unions or the mafia in the north and midwest.
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All dems are card-carrying communists. Didn’t you know that? The cards are red, by the way.
I agree with you that the democrats’ New Deal programs pulled many African Americans into the Democratic Party. The Civil Rights Act pulled in more and Trump is now putting the icing on the cake, so to speak. Nixon played the racist “southern strategy” to win his election.
That was back in the days that Republicans wanted to reduce the number of guns on the streets and limit their availability. Suddenly, that has become a second amendment issue. It also used to be that Republicans looked for strong foreign policy, but today, Trump wants to play patty-cake with Putin and says Kim Jong-un is a “strong leader.” My goodness how the Republican Party has changed. Do you still recognize it? Will we next see the GOP embrace abortions and declare Quanza as a national holiday?
BTW, speaking of Putin, do you think Trump might have lots of Russian money behind him, as his son has said? Maybe it’s mafia money as he does work with them in construction (concrete) and bought property from Sally Testa (son of the head of Philly mafia, deceased) at eight times it FMV. We’ll never know until he releases those tax returns, of course. What’s he hiding anyway: A fifth bankruptcy? A fourth divorce? Or is he claiming more charitable contributions that are really made from other peoples’ money? Great values there.
Whatever happened to those Republican morals and family values, anyway? Why does the Republican Party have this turkey as its candidate? It seems like a real cluster to me.
Tell us what is so great about Hillary? So far you haven’t said one good thing about her. Also you never answered my remark about the why the western-culture hating father of the orlando nightclub shooter is supporting Hillary? Democrats killed Republican/American morals and values with ultra liberalism and PC culture, which you seem to hold dear.
You are right, I’ve never said anything about her.
I have no idea why the western-culture-hating shoot ’em up guy was at Hillary’s event. I try not to speak about what I don’t know.
As for dems killing repub values (that idea made me chuckle out loud-thank you for the laugh), I’d say republicans did that all on their own over the years–a sort of repetative shooting themselves in their own feet, so to speak. Nominating Trump is the epitome of their self-inflicted wounds, which are now probably mortal.
Well at least I can stand by the person I’m voting for, and I still say that Democrats morally bankrupted America with ultra-liberalism which killed traditional values.
Why is a southern strategy bad and the democrat making promises to blacks they never intend to keep good. The democrats fail Econ 101, if they gave every poor family a “middle class” income, the poor won’t be middle class no more than a lotto winner would suddenly have “old money” values. What the poor need desperately are jobs, especially the young. Only bourgeoisie values truly make one middle class and upwardly mobile.
Second Amendment is the law of the land. FYI, the NRA was formed to arm blacks so as to defend themselves against the Democrat party’s militant arm, the KKK. Dem or Rep, right or left statist always want the guns.
What politician hasn’t said “stupid stuff” especially out of context as the media reports. That’s why I read transcripts of speeches or watch the whole videos of reported so called “stupid stuff”, nine time out of ten the media was full of BS.
The nomination of Trump is the result of Democrats, Republican establishments and media destroying the Tea Party, a middle class group protesting the lack of transparency, deficits and the destroying of checks and balances in government. The Tea Party was made up of Dems, Reps and independents, we are seeing their rath now. Did I mention this administration’s weaponization of the IRS against them. It’s also a result of Rep establishment letting Obama govern by decree. If the Rep Party destructs who cares, if Hillary wins it’s just the same old same old fake social justice crap. Look for churches to have government mandates to provide trans sexual bathrooms.
Democracy is a great thing, we choose our destructors.
Back to the thread, I wish O’Connell’s great success in their expansion and hope they carry on their excellent choices in merchandise. 😉
@Mac McConnell and they call us deplorable!
So you think that outlawing transgender toilets is going to solve the country’s problems? Ha!
Current problems all started with Regan. The supply side voodoo economics did only two things: made the rich richer beyond their wildest dreams of avarice and decimated the middle class. Plus, he nearly bankrupted the country with the deficit he created. Thank god for Bill Clinton for getting both the economy and the country straight again. At least for a few years, until that is, Bush came in.
Of course Georgie created two expensive wars that drained substantial money out of the country. Just think about where we would be today if those trillions we cycled into the country rather than into bombs.
And, he cancelled prudent regulations such that the rich on Wall St went wild and nearly bankrupted the world (sort of a repub theme). Of course, all the companies that went wild were bailed out in the biggest welfare boondoggle ever, and then they gave themselves bonuses with tax payer money. Such nice guys to create wars, huge deficits, and reward criminals.
Only a dem president (that would be Obama) kept the country afloat. And, by the way, GW didn’t make government smaller. Not only did he suck trillions out of the economy with his ill-conceived wars, he created a 40+ B expansion of government that now makes us take our shoes off at the airport.
The Tea Party failed because it was way too extreme and allowed stupid to rise to the top– I.e., Sarah Pallin and Michelle Bachman.
Now we have Trump. He’s not even a repub! The only thing he believes is that Donald J Trump is great. Everything else is up for negotiation. He could care less about culture and values, liberal or otherwise. But he’s got the deplorables believing that those values are so important as he tells one bald faced lie after another. Hitler did it similarly in the 1930s.
Trump saw that business like Goldman and AIG could get away with financial murder and then get rewarded with free bailout money and bonuses. He said this is just too good to pass up. And now he is the repub candidate. Just can’t wait to see what he will do if elected.
Christians one and all better start praying. God help America if Trump is elected president.
I wish O’Connell’s all the success, too. At least we can agree on that
God help America if Hillary becomes president, we need Trump. U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
@A Bridge to Far
I fear you are helplessly naïve. “Current problems all started with Reagan.”
Jimmy Carter immediately comes to mind. Jimmy was a boob of the first water but at least he was honest.
Common sense man!
Will
Will,
Not at all naive.
Reagan destroyed the middle class with trickle down and heavy government spending (do you remember Reagan left us with a 400 T debt — largest in history at the time.). His Laffert-curve tax and regulatory changes had decades-long impacts we are still reeling from today.
Carter created other problems, but not the gutting of the middle class. And, yes, he was an honest man with integrity. Not something that can be said of many presidents. Certainly, if you said it about Trump you would be lying. Crickey, even his hair is a lie.
And now the Trumpettes will knee-jerk and say Hillary lies too. But her hair is real.
Reagan destroyed the middle class? Were you alive in the ’80s? I was, and it was a swell time for my modest family.
I think Trump is far more honest than her, she’s a politician and by nature a liar. We know of the many lies she’s told and we are still finding out more. I agree with sack suit, you seem very naive.
Carter was an idiot, that’s his legacy. If you’re only going to bash Republican presidents you have no credibility, you need to give the demo some fault too. There’s a reason that Reagan was elected twice and is seen as one of the best presidents in history.
*dems
I would argue that the 80s were boom years, but that is too short a period of time to assess the damage Reagan did to the middle class. Reagan dramatically cut tax rates on the rich. Since that time, income inequality has ballooned. Just as important, income levels have risen only for the top 1 percent and have been flat (with real income declining) for the middle and lower classes.
Ask your family if they have been working as hard or harder compared to the 1980s. They will all say yes. So why hasn’t income risen with harder work, more productivity, amazing technological advances, etc. It’s the policies that were initiated by Reagan. Any chart of income by group over time will show this. Within a 30 year span, voodoo economics (a phrase originally coined by Geo HW Bush) has all but wiped out the middle class. It’s what Sanders understood and voiced in his campaign.
The period in which more people participated in the wealth of the economy was not the 1980s but during the 1960s and early 70s. But this was also a time when social unrest was at its greatest. Russell Kirk understood the connection between greater participation in wealth and social unrest and discussed it in his work. When people have more, they demand more. This led to greater civil rights, protests against government’s Viet Nam war policies, the women’ rights movements and others — all things Republicans were against. In any event, Reagan put an end to all that and changed the country dramatically with Reaganomics.
Curious, do you think the rich get rich AT THE EXPENSE of the lower classes? In other words, if a billionaire has a good year and your income is flat, has he managed to take income from you?
You are framing the question as an individual act. I don’t think anyone does it deliberately … well, maybe Trump would, but in general, I think people simply act in their own self-interest, so they aren’t purposefully taking income from me or others. It’s the policies, starting with Reagan’s huge tax and regulatory changes, not individual rich people that is the issue. Take the executive bonus loophole in the tax code, as an example. Corporations, which have been making record profits, can avoid significant taxes by giving executives ‘performance-based’ bonuses. The bigger the bonuses, the bigger the avoidance of corporate tax. Of course, the taxpayer ends up footing the bill as the corporations write off the bonuses. Corporation basically get a tax break by overpaying their execs.
So think about this. Middle class incomes have remained stagnant for decades and wealth continues to be given to the top tier but the bill isn’t paid by the corporation. It’s paid by the taxpayer whose typical income isn’t growing.
So are the rich getting richer at the expense of the lower classes? Yes, I suppose you could make that argument. I don’t think that’s really the issue, though. The issue in my judgement is that it should stop. But you have a party that looks at any “tax increase” as something to go to war over. There is no reasonable discussion possible and the entrenchment we have seen since the 1990s has worsened with the current election.
The tangent off O’Connell’s expansion began when someone said O’Connell’s doesn’t discriminate against the “deplorables.” Here is a sense of what “deplorables” is referencing:
https://youtu.be/R9YPYRaeTW0
Give it a rest, you’ve proved yourself isane, we that you’re upset that Bernie lost. Move on.
I knew it was too good to be true that all the comments might be about O’ Connell’s. Congratulations to them and good luck as well on the expansion. I hope they continue in years of service to those with good taste in clothing, be it Red, Blue, Pink or Green parties. Actually, pink and green (together) sounds like a wonderful combination!
Can’t understand anyone supporting Trump. Even George HW Bush says he’s voting for Hillary. Wow! Trump cheats contractors, blatant liar, bribes elected officials, uses charity money illegally, a racist, and it goes on and on. You want him to be president of this great country?! That’s really deplorable.
GS A fine example of hard-headed ignorance. Byrd was able to learn and adjust his thinking (and behavior). You seem to be unable to do so. Liberals have done absolutely nothing to American mores that Republicans have not already done. Let’s talk marriage, shall we? Clinton is loyal to her first, and only, spouse. That used to be the norm. That used to be a good thing. Donald? Not so much. In fact, he cheated on each wife with the next wife. How American. Well, Speaker Newt Gingrich did about the same. But Clinton? No. One husband. One marriage. You ask for her qualifications? They are too many to list here: First Lady; Senator; Secretary of State; lawyer; child advocate; health care advocate; mother; grandmother. She did not “lose” emails; she deleted the personal ones as required by law. (Google the Foreign Service Manual for the rules.) And she actually saved and turned over 55,000 of her emails. It was Secretary Powell who had deleted ALL of his emails, personal and governmental. And it was Cheney and dozens of other White House staffers who used a private RNC server and deleted or “lost” 22 million government service emails. Clinton’s foundation actually spends money to help people. She takes no salary. Nor does her husband or daughter. It gets A ratings from watchdog groups. Her opponent’s foundation is used as a personal piggy bank; to pay his debts; buy portraits of himself; donate illegally to political campaigns. All of her tax returns have been released. None of his have been. She pays her bills. He does not. She is educated; intelligent; calm; rational and experienced. In short, all the things her opponent is not.
Chuck in PA – all points made are excellent. What is most unnerving is that the Republican Party still supports this guy! It tells you where their integrity lies.
As Chuck in PA has pointed out he acts like a spoiled brat and probably illegally. He doesn’t care about the country, only himself. An now, he once again becomes petty, boorish and brutish — this time over a former beauty queen who called him out. And, he can’t let it go. I surely don’t want this kind of immature person as the head of the United States. Hillary noted that he can’t stand up to the Mexican president when he was face-to-face with him, but he is quick to denigrate women. What a tough guy. All puff. Not only has he been an continuous embarrassment, can you imagine how he will behave when another country doesn’t agree with him? My god, what an absolute disaster he would be.
New alert children up the thread, real Preps are staunchly Conservative and Republican and always have been, so there is living proof on here who are the real deal and who are living in a pretend world.