Mitt Romney: A Preppy, Ivy Kinda Guy

Yesterday a link to a slideshow of the young Mitt Romney somehow made its way into my inbox. I took a look and wasn’t surprised to learn that the son of Michigan’s governor and former prep school student was raised on natural shoulders, oxford buttondowns and rep ties.

At least while it was current and fashionable.

In the ’70s he went hairy like most everybody else, and today the Harvard alum looks just like any other politician: sanitized for television and downplaying his elite background with populist pablum.

Above, an ad for the local menswear shop (taken from this Washington Post slideshow). Below, yearbook photo:

Bottom row, third from left, in what looks like corduroy:

He’s in there somewhere amid the sea of Weejuns:

I believe these date from his years at Stanford:

Cruising around France in a suit. Must be a Mormon thing:

By the time Romney made it to Harvard (for a joint Juris Doctor and Master’s of Business Administration), he already had a family and the heyday of the Ivy League Look had passed and the LL Bean Preppy Seventies were dawning. — CC

114 Comments on "Mitt Romney: A Preppy, Ivy Kinda Guy"

  1. I was out running errands yesterday and saw two Mormons on bicycles go by. They’re easy to spot: they always wear white shirts and ties. I don’t know why any Mormons would do their missionary work here – lots of them live here.

    The sweaters in the last picture are beautiful. Ann Romney looks a bit like Patty Hearst.

  2. Very trad, got my vote!

  3. “In the ’70s he went hairy like most everybody else, and today the Harvard alum looks just like any other politician: sanitized for television and downplaying his elite background with populist pablum.”

    Well, when has this cretin not turned in the breeze like a wind sock at an airfield?

  4. Michael Mattis | June 14, 2012 at 10:52 am |

    “In the ’70s he went hairy like most everybody else, and today the Harvard alum looks just like any other politician: sanitized for television and downplaying his elite background with populist pablum.”

    Are you surprised? When has this cretin not turned in the breeze like a windsock at an airfield?

  5. Hard to believe that the G.O.P. once produced Presidential candidates of the highest caliber and Presidents of international stature. And now we have come to this.

  6. I look forward to November when we get to have the adults back in charge…

  7. When has this cretin not turned in the breeze like a windsock at an airfield?

    Cretins don’t graduate from Harvard with a JD in the top third of their class or top 5% in the MBA program.

    Turning in the wind, what politician doesn’t? When Clinton did it, it was called triangulation and deemed brilliant by the media. The only campaign promise God Zero kept was destroying the coal industry, he sure didn’t pursue jobs when first elected, media silent.

    The Romney money is not “old” money. Both, George and Mitt are self made men and both have worn their business experience on their sleeves politically.

    But, this is going to be a long and fun campaign for political junkies, very close in the end. We can all be partisan gentlemen, be civilized and agree to disagree

  8. I enjoyed the slide shows very much. Thanks for posting the links!

  9. Note the duffle coat in the hockey photo.

  10. @MAC

    Mitt a self-made man? That actually made me “laugh out loud”!

    He’s the son of a multi-millionaire. His dad was was chairman and president of American Motors Corporation from 1954 to 1962, the 43rd Governor of Michigan from 1963 to 1969, and a (failed) Presidential candidate. Mitt inherited massive amounts of money and had every possible extra elite advantage handed to him on a silver platter.

    As the saying goes, Mitt was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.

    But it’s nice to have a photo of Mitt engaged “in sport” to show he’s a common man.

  11. ID
    Mitt gave his inheritance away. His father actually grew up poor, worked construction till he got involved in politics, was a lobbyist for aluminum and auto manufacturers and then AMC before Mitt was born. No doubt Mitt had advantages growing up, but knowing his father’s back ground, one can understand why Mitt worked as a night watchman while attending Stanford, seems when you leave home you are on your own. I have no idea how Mitt paid for BYU or Harvard, but we don’t know how The One paid for his education either. Personally I think it’s refreshing that he doesn’t pretend to have grown up disadvantaged like so many pols with Abe Lincoln meme.

  12. No son or daughter of a chairman for an auto company, govenor of a state, and a presidential candidate could be even remotely considered working class or disadvantaged. With a family background like that, he was destined for success from getting the lead in the kindergarden Thanksgiving pageant to running for President.

    He would get the better grades, better job offers, and everything else. Look at George W. Read his book. He writes like he worried he would not be accepted into Yale. His jobs with the oil companies were a struggle. Mitt is just like him. Trying to be a regular guy. What a joke!

  13. “You couldn’t buy a ticket, to hear the first robin sing,
    it’s free because it’s Anybody’s Spring”….so the song goes.
    Everybody enjoying beach season? From the local
    offerings to the resorts? How about a simple walk in the
    local park? Do any of you photograph? Take in the splendor
    of nature, all the beauty it has to offer taken for granted day
    after day. Ever watch a sunset or sunrise in awe of its
    majestic horizon? Do you ever stop and simply enjoy
    what life has to offer no mater what your lot in life?
    NO. You see their are “drips” among humanity that insist
    you are obligated to live your entire life with guilt and
    how dare you enjoy anything life has to give, You are
    privileged therefore you OWE others who are not as privileged.
    You have NO RIGHT to individual pursuit of happiness.
    You owe it to everyone else to demonstrate you know
    you do not deserve better than anyone else and you better
    make that clear if you expect respect from others.
    How dare you enjoy a simple walk in the park when you
    should see if this park has any history of violating civil
    rights! Then by all means organize a march and condemn it!
    Yes, be a miserable grouch and protest your life away.
    By the time your tombstone is put into place and you’ve
    changed – NOTHING – those of us without guilt shall be
    enjoying all of God’s grace offerings for free and living it
    up. Isn’t that too bad.

  14. Duke
    I imagine that anyone with a JD or MBA from Harvard has doors opened for them, even the Clintons who both came from mid to upper middle class back grounds. Does anyone think The One would have been given the time of day had he not gone to Harvard law, although his family had connections.

    Mitt has never claimed to be working class or lack connections, his life is an open book.

  15. Disillusioned Prof | June 14, 2012 at 9:51 pm |

    Those of us in the higher education racket know that degrees mean virtually nothing.

    In particular, the JD is certainly not the equivalent of a real doctorate (the PhD); just an expensive vocational cerificate

  16. Old Money | June 14, 2012 at 9:53 pm |

    I’ll vote for Obama to protect the Republican Party from going down in history as the party that gave us a president even dumber than Dubya

  17. @MAC

    Oh , you really have been misinformed. While in college Mitt and his wife lived off money from stocks. At no point did Mitt EVER suffer or start from the bottom. NEVER HAPPENED.

    Here’s Ann Romney’s story of their “struggling” years in college:

    “They were not easy years…..We were happy, studying hard. Neither one of us had a job, because Mitt had enough of an investment from stock that we could sell off a little at a time.”

    “We were living on the edge, not entertaining. No, I did not work. … So, we were married a long time before we had any income, about five years as struggling students.”

    The stock was worth $60,000 in 1969 dollars. That’s about $377,000 in today’s money. that’s Mitt’s idea of “struggling” and “living on the edge”. What college kid with close to half a million dollars in resources would consider that “struggling”? Would ANYBODY consider that “struggling”?

  18. Cranky Yankee | June 15, 2012 at 2:33 am |

    To earn is human; to inherit, divine.

  19. DP
    Yes, today higher education is a racket, especially if one goes into debt to achieve a JD or even a PhD, depending on the subject matter and school.

  20. Old Money
    You should vote for Obama, in four years you can change name to No money. :-)

  21. Ivy Drip

    I have no idea where Mitt got the stock or how far $20,000 a year goes covering a family, Harvard tuition for a JD and MBA in 1969. You’re right, I doubt they struggled as most would define it, but who cares?

  22. MAC

    If the money of the plutocrats decreases, but the level of health and education in the country increases, Obama will deserve to be beatified.

  23. Lancelot
    He already has been.

  24. Binx Bolling | June 15, 2012 at 8:14 am |

    Those of who repulsed by any preppy love thrown at Romney, Bush or Buckley now might know how the rest of us feel when the Ivy blogosphere whores itself out to the Kennedy clan.

  25. Binx Bolling | June 15, 2012 at 8:39 am |

    Those of you….damn typos.

  26. MAC

    In that case, he’ll deserve to be canonized.

  27. Boston Ivy | June 15, 2012 at 8:54 am |

    Binx Bolling

    The Kennedy clan were authentic Ivy, unlike Bush and certainly unlike Romney.

    As far as Buckley is concerned, we may despise his political stance, but would certainly never challenge his Ivy credentials.

  28. Binx Bolling | June 15, 2012 at 9:02 am |

    Boston – point was that the picture of any GOP figure immediately leads to foaming at the mouth for a certain segment, the rage based on politics, not trad authenticity. I frankly don’t give a damn for anyone’s credentials (though WFB is a personal hero).

  29. A wonderful NYT article today that I thought you might enjoy. “Living In The Past”:


  30. @MAC opined:

    “I have no idea where Mitt got the stock or how far $20,000 a year goes covering a family, Harvard tuition for a JD and MBA in 1969. You’re right, I doubt they struggled as most would define it, but who cares?”

    You have no idea where the stock came from? Considering that it was stock from AMC where his Dad was CEO, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
    ….and, I TOLD you how much $60,000 was in today’s money. Feel free to doublecheck that with any inflation calculator.
    “Who cares?” Obviously you do, as you were touting his credentials as a supposedly “self-made man”. Given a half-million dollar headstart gift from Daddy kind of dispels the “self-made” part.

    BTW, do you think being the son of a major automotive CEO, Governor, and Presidential candidate, as well as attending prep schools MIGHT give someone a slight advantage in the Harvard admissions process? If you think connections don’t grease the wheels you’re incredibly naive.

    Let’s just call a spade a spade, shall we?

    And no, that’s not your cue to spin a fantastic tale of how Obama was somehow some sort of son of privilege too.

  31. Ivy Drip
    First, I know what inflation is, it’s what coming down the pike.

    Second, Mitt grew up privileged, no doubt. Again, so what.

    Thirdly, who has ran for President that didn’t have financial and political connections? Only those naive and ignorant or never really been involved in politics don’t know this.

    Lastly, regardless of privilege or not, the cracks in the blue model started in the midterm elections and continues today.

  32. Michael Mattis | June 15, 2012 at 2:07 pm |

    “To earn is human; to inherit, divine.”

    Cranky, your quip is practically Wildean. Well played.

  33. @MAC

    Well Mac, YOU were the one claiming Mitt was some self-made man, not me. Now apparently you’ve changed your tune and begrudgingly admit that his privileged background was indeed a huge factor in his “success”.

    But, one could argue, this self-made man myth is also being pushed by the Romney campaign itself (see ridiculous Ann Romney “struggling” quotes above) in order to downplay how wildly out-of-touch Romney is with the economic reality of the vast majority of Americans. When a half-million dollars is considered “struggling” for someone barely out of their teen years, well, obviously there is a distortion of perspective there.

    You said:
    “…who has ran for President that didn’t have financial and political connections?”

    Uh, I don’t even know what that means, or what strawman you’re arguing here. We are talking about formative childhood/young adult years and what obvious advantages privilege bestows upon those born into it. Obviously by the time you get to be a middle age man running for President you have to be affiliated with a party and have risen through the ranks of said party in order to make the connections necessary to raise the money needed for the campaign.
    What happens earlier in your life has a huge impact on the ease or difficulty of arriving at that future point. DUH.

    As i said, Mitt was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple. Which starts to become very apparent by some of the clueless things he says.

  34. $ 60K in 1969 calculated to today’s inflation at $ 377K does not translate accurately the buying power in today’s money. Gas was 28 cents a gallon, full size new cars sold for around $ 3K, natural gas utility bills were around $ 15 a month in winter, and electric about $ 4. A 3 bedroom ranch home sold for under $ 20K. To stay preppy, a new set of Wilson golf clubs were around $ 100, and a round of 18 holes was about $ 2.

    Minimum wage was $ 1.45 per hour, of which I worked hard to earn. It would take 20 years of labor to earn that $ 60K, if no taxes or expenses were incurred. $10K a year was a sum most people strived for. $ 10K a year meant you had arrived.

    It took me 10 years of work at a good job to save that paltry $ 60K. Most working class people today couldn’t save $ 60K in 10 years, let alone the $ 377K adjusted for inflation.

    Mitt and Mrs. Mitt had no struggle. I’d make a better President.

  35. I’ll stick by Mitt being a self made business man. He didn’t sit around clipping coupons like the Kennedys or Bidens, he actually created wealth.

    No, you can’t escape your history, well unless you’ve got a compliant media.

    I don’t care if Mitt had advantages, nor that he is an awkward politician, he’s a wonk. At this point and in November I don’t think the voters will care either, it will be a very close election or a landslide.

  36. D.B. McWeeberton | June 15, 2012 at 4:16 pm |

    Comment by MAC — June 15, 2012 @ 3:10 pm
    “At this point and in November I don’t think the voters will care either, it will be a very close election or a landslide.”

    You’re really going out on a limb with that prediction!

  37. DB
    Well that’s why I had the qualifier of “very close”, but in the real world anything can happen.

    But, Obama is slowly losing the middle in states he once owned. Many compare 2008 electoral college numbers to polls to day, but ignore the 2010 midterm election flips from blue to red data. Historically, the midterms more accurately predict Presidential outcomes. Granted, it’s very early on and if a landslide happens it will be like Reagan’s, a last minute electorate decision.

  38. I LIKE IKE.

  39. @MAC

    “I’ll stick by Mitt being a self made business man.”

    OF COURSE you will. Don’t let little things like facts get in the way of the narrative you’ve bought into.

    “…he actually created wealth.”

    Did he now? Or did he exploit failing businesses and steal the employees’ pensions to “create” his extra wealth. I don’t see anything that Romney did as any sort of benefit to the country. Running the USA is not a for-profit endeavor for personal enrichment. In fact it’s a non-profit exercise in looking out for the well-being of others.

    “I don’t care if Mitt had advantages, nor that he is an awkward politician,…”

    OF COURSE you don’t. Why would you care if our President has even the slightest inkling of how the vast majority of Americans actually live? Why would you want him to have smooth diplomatic skills when he’s in the most powerful political office in the world?

    Sheesh….don’t even bother with excuses anymore. You’d vote for him even if he admitted to belonging to some bizarre cult that worshiped beings from the planet Kolob.
    Oh wait, nevermind.

  40. Buttondown Mind | June 15, 2012 at 7:53 pm |

    The really tragic thing is that if Mutt is elected, he’ll bring about such economic and social injustice that the eventual take-over by Islam will be speeded up.

  41. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 15, 2012 at 9:29 pm |

    uh-oh…somebody stole my handle!

  42. Former Buttondown Mind | June 15, 2012 at 9:40 pm |

    @Button-down Mind Strikes back


    Didn’t mean to do so.

  43. Heated… I figured this one would be…

    My 2cents says who cares if he inherited his money? Who cares if he didn’t… Those are all the wrong details… Typical for the uneducated and uninformed to spend energy and time discussing his family tree and bank roll… I hear this nonsense all the time talking to people, “well he was privlidged… Etc…” yea, so… And now he is using his privlidges to fix this mess we are in… Fine by me. These are usually the people that know absolutely nothing about the foreign policies, debt, unimployment, etc… Just vote based on religion and skin color… Whatever…

    And for those who did inherit wealth, that is what the working class and family is all about, working hard to provide for your family and children, so that they may have a better life than you…. At least that’s how I was raised…

    If he was so rich, why bother working at all? Obviously he is trying to make a difference… And Kennedy, please… His father was loaded$$$

    The pics are indeed very trad and nice to browse through.

  44. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 15, 2012 at 11:50 pm |


    The point is hypocrisy….the BS Romney campaign propaganda touting this self-made man nonsense. Laughable on it’s face.

  45. Political cartoons should be subtle and have a historical perspective, hopeful descent art…..

    This week Howard Dean said that the POTUS doesn’t have a cohesive message. So, after a couple of very bad months for the POTUS, he went on TV to give a “Re-Boot” speech. Unfortunately, it got panned even on MSNBC, turns out it’s basically the same speech he gave the AP luncheon three months ago.

    Anyway, I’m here to help. His re-election would be a sure thing if he promised to enroll in Econ 101 if re-elected.

  46. Michael Mattis | June 16, 2012 at 2:58 pm |


    Upon reflection, “cretin” was indeed a poor choice of words. I meant “philistine.”

  47. Christian | June 16, 2012 at 4:30 pm |

    “Cretin” sounds specific to one politician; “philistine” to all of them.

  48. Christian WINS!

  49. Honest Gabe | June 16, 2012 at 8:53 pm |

    Barry is hardly a philistine; Mutt is philistinism incarnate.
    Even those who always blindly vote Republican cannot possibly argue that he’s not a cretin, too.

  50. The Politics of Envy is alive and well amongst the lower orders in Ivy Land.

  51. True Believer | June 16, 2012 at 10:39 pm |

    Dear Fogey,

    It has nothing to do with envy and everything to do with our responsibilty for the welfare of our fellow man as dictated by our Lord Jesus Christ and as forgotten by the G.O.P.

  52. Pasadena Fugitive | June 16, 2012 at 10:44 pm |

    LB Fogey,

    How can a gentleman of your intelligence, perspicacity, breeding, and sophistication possibly support the mental midget who has the audacity to think that he should be President of this fair land?

  53. Grant Spearfisher | June 17, 2012 at 4:50 am |


    I couldn’t have put it better myself.

  54. From a Chinese perspective, the problem of Mitt Romney is that he is trying to achieve what his father could not–we have seen this pattern before( first generation business into second generation politics), and frankly I question how much of a personal ambition as to his willingness to lead this country.

  55. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 1:08 pm |


    “The Politics of Envy is alive and well amongst the lower orders in Ivy Land.”

    Just when i thought you couldn’t be any more of a cliche. “Envy” has nothing to do with it, but nice job regurgitating the rightwing talking points.

  56. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 1:16 pm |

    Romney’s father was actually a decent man, for a Republican.
    Which is why he didn’t get the GOP nomination. He was pro-civil rights and anti-Vietnam war.

    Mitt learned from his father’s “mistakes” and makes sure he never takes a solid stand on either side of any issue. He usually takes both sides, at any given time. And then switches back again.

  57. I’m afraid button down mind, your collar is too tight.
    AH, because Romney’s father agrees with your politics
    he gets your praise……..

    Not a fan of Romney nor Mr ‘LBF” am I at all.

    Love how you ignore the “regurgitation” of the leftwing
    points how one cannot be born into privilege and at the
    same time have compassion and understanding of those
    not so fortunate. But of course if such a “privileged”
    individual can show that he is as leftist as the rest, why
    then praise him! He gets a pass! He lives with the
    appropriate guilt and humanitarianism for all.
    Yes, don’t stop believing the rainbows are just
    ahead! When humanity will prove they don’t need a
    “God” or his authority, just drop all judgement towards
    one another , no enforcement of authority and lawless
    evil ,self centered ,arrogant humanity will have their
    utopia!! …..It’s only been thousands upon thousands
    of years now and humanity hasn’t learned it’s not
    good to lie ,cheat, steal and murder form one another
    YET??…….Who needs a God ,humanity is so

  58. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 2:35 pm |


    Jinx returns with another rambling mess of non-sequitirs.

    George Romney didn’t “get my praise”. I just said he wasn’t as bad as many others on the right. that’s some faint praise. But why wouldn’t I “praise” someone if i agreed with (some of) his positions? I suppose by your comments I should assume you would have been against civil rights and for the Vietnam War? Nevermind, I already know your answer.

    Of course it is possible to be raised in privilege and show compassion, empathy and understanding for those less fortunate. FDR is a prime example of that.

    Unfortunately, GOP candidates in the last 100 years have all failed to show any of these traits. Reagan, Bush and Romney spring to mind immediately.

    I do find it very telling that you consider those traits to be inherently “leftist” in nature.

    The rest of your screed is just flying somewhere in outer space, as well as being irrelevant.

  59. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 2:36 pm |

    *feint , I should have said

  60. Ivy Drip
    What companies did Mitt steal worker’s pensions funds from?

    I’ll assume you mean GTS, the bankrupt steel manufacturer in Kansas City. It’s the Bain Capital failure featured in the Dem campaign ad. The ad stars past union officials from the Kansas City plant, that plant is about seven miles from my home.

    The GTS plant is the old ARMCO Steel plant that has been in existence since 1888. ARMCO was planning to shut the KC plant down if they couldn’t unload it, Bain Capital stepped in. Bain’s plan was to invest in modernization of the plant, make it profitable, after value added sale it in an IPO.

    The plans proceeded, Bain sold bonds to finance the modernization and planned for the IPO. Things were looking up for the old ARMCO plant, till the guys in that ad organized a strike, along with the usual thuggery and vandalism. What were the union demands?, pay-no, work rules-no, it was the guaranteeing of a golden parachute benefits package if plant went bankrupt. Smells like team spirit, I remember at the time, most here in KC thought these guys were crazy. After that strike the handwriting was on the wall and in the end the bankruptcy court disallowed the golden parachute pensions. The Feds picked up $44 million in unfunded pension liabilities, which I guess is the somehow the “stealing of employees’ pensions”. I have no idea what the unfunded pension liabilities were when Bain took over, I doubt they were zero and considering the steel industry’s bankruptcies of that time $44 isn’t large, most were in the 100s of millions and one was $1.4 billion.

    There’s most likely, there’s plenty of blame to go around for the failure, but the sister GTS plant down south came back up after the bankruptcy and last I heard was still in production.

    Question, does anyone know what the unfunded non-union pension liabilities are from the non-bankruptcy bankruptcy of GM, not estimates or the real figure of pennies on the dollar pensions those workers are going to get? I’m sure they will be released after the election.

  61. Too many damn libs patrolling this site

  62. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 3:25 pm |

    Too many damn cons patrolling this site

  63. Unfortunately, GOP candidates in the last 100 years have all failed to show any of these traits.

    When I read this kind of BS I have to wonder if the author is in jr. high or never read a history book or believe what political hacks posing on MSNBC as journalist spin. I admit to watching MSNBC 24/7, it is comedy gold.

    I don’t mean to offend you BDMSB, your ignorance of the facts can’t hold a candle to TB’s ability to read a magic 8-ball to determine what Jesus would do and what is in men’s hearts.

    You mention the VN War, get a book find out what SEATO is, find out who put boot on the ground and escalated with the advise of his best and brightest Ivy Leaguers.

    Civil Rights and the two parties, you don’t even want to go there.

    The truth is that we live in a modern welfare state, no one either side of the isle doesn’t understand that, regardless of the rhetoric. The welfare state needs reforms, the private sector can’t support it’s rate of growth anymore.

  64. Anonymous | June 17, 2012 at 4:17 pm |

    Vermin Supreme 2012!

  65. Button Down says – ‘FDR is a prime example of that!”

    Oh ,Mr Button Down??
    I stated before (just scroll up please)
    *AHEM* “But of course if such a “privileged”
    individual can show that he is as leftist as the
    rest,why then praise him”

    And what do you do?

    “Of course ol’ leftwing FDR is a prime example
    of that”………..

    Don’t be so predictable. You want to make a point
    against me you don’t make my point for me.

    It’s easier squashing bugs…

    AH, the non- sequitur nonsense.
    When I parody the hopes of leftwing fallen
    humanity that somehow, someway you will all
    find this “paradise” on your own without a
    savior or God necessary it is a straight
    direct bullseye to your entire way of thinking.
    It is not unrelated but the most important
    testimony against you.

    Keep your mind buttoned down.
    Ignorance is bliss

  66. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 5:46 pm |


    Doubling-down on the crazy non-sequitirs…
    Not even worth going down that rabbit hole of insanity.


    I understand that logic makes you really angry, but thanks for more vague rightwing doublespeak. It speaks volumes about you.
    There’s always this unique conservative ability to master cognitive dissonance – to hold two conflicting viewpoints simultaneously. To supposedly espouse the beliefs of Jesus, while simultaneously raging against anything that would actually implement his teachings.

    Fascinating to view, from a psychological perspective.

  67. Yeah Button Down.
    Matt 10:34 – Do not think that I have come to bring
    peace to the world. I have not come to bring peace
    but a sword.

    As well as the book of Revelations regarding the second
    coming of Christ that his”robe will run red with blood”
    of all those he will be slaughtering.
    Oh yes Jesus is a humanitarian loving liberal…
    Predictable again. You go and default to non
    sequitur accusation against me AGAIN.

    Rightwing doublespeak he says to MAC.
    But leftwing is right on. Please.
    Don’t you get tired of being a walking target
    practice? To espouse the beliefs of Jesus
    as conservative is correct because no one is as
    far to the right as he is. Hence why all of
    humanity falls short of his grace . Dig deep
    enough and there you find the poison of leftism
    in each soul of a person thus needing a savior.

    Glad to know you don’t think you need one.

  68. Button-down Mind Strikes back

    I don’t get angry over politics or religion, only fools do. But, keep believing you receive grace by voting for politicians that give other peoples’ money away.

  69. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 8:12 pm |


    I’m assuming you’re talking about taxes?

    You mean how rich people’s capital gains tax is lower than the average middle class rate? You DO know that upper income taxes were considerably higher under Reagan, right? Taxes are the lowest they have been in decades. So I’m not sure exactly what you’re talking about, other than parroting fake rightwing narratives.

    I just keep thinking how Jesus would feel about the conservative war on the poor. The rightwing has managed to twist and distort Jesus’s pacifist liberal teachings into some bizarre conservative hate crusade.

    Jesus was ALL ABOUT helping the poor, not “what’s in it for me?”

  70. Montague Capulet | June 17, 2012 at 8:21 pm |

    @ Button-down Mind Strikes back

    Hear! Hear!

    The truth of the matter is that those conservative hate-mongers would crucify Jesus if he were to return to earth.

  71. Poor Trad | June 17, 2012 at 8:32 pm |

    Demanding that the wealthy pay their share isn’t class warfare, it’s common sense.

  72. Jesus had David slaughter Goliath.
    Jesus had Moses punish the people who made false
    idols out of gold by melting down the idols and
    drinking the melted gold to their deaths.
    Jesus had the wandering tribe of Israelites in the
    desert put the sword to their own relatives who strayed
    from him and his teachings.
    Jesus ordered the Israelites to kill the Canaanites
    all the men women and children and take their
    village over for themselves. Might that be a civil
    rights violation of the Canaanites??
    Jesus had Sampson bring down a building
    on top of self righteous humanitarians.
    Jesus killed the Egyptians stupid enough
    to follow the jews freed by Moses by closing the
    sea upon them to their death.

    The greatest death penalty of all time.
    The great flood .Jesus kills off everything
    and everyone save Noah and seven others
    along with the animals and the ark.

    Real pacifist there. Please. The anti christ
    will be the liberal you are dreaming of.
    The real Jesus does indeed have love, mercy
    and forgiveness as part of his character.
    ALONG with justice ,righteousness and authority.
    You hate a divine authority that sentences people
    and holds them responsible.
    YOU- are the “What’s In it For Me” people.
    You are the ones who distort Jesus for your
    personal politics of all forgiveness ,no judging.
    Sorry. Not the way it is.

  73. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 8:59 pm |


    Thanks for proving my point.

  74. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 9:02 pm |

    Should I bother pointing out that Jesus wasn’t even around during the Old Testament? Not to mention that the Bible isn’t literal. Or has Jinx been conversing with talking snakes?

  75. You have no point to prove.
    Jesus wasn’t around??
    Now we have it. You don’t believe he’s
    the divine creator in heaven either.
    Yes I’m real non sequitur now .
    I had you pegged dead on from the get go.
    Sighhhhhhh. OK button down. Stay to the left.
    STAY. There is a dead end awaiting your
    journey’s end. You’ll be so pleased.
    BON VOYAGE! ….you’re a waste of time kid.

  76. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 9:19 pm |


    I have NO IDEA what you’re babbling about.
    Completely crazy, as usual.

  77. NO, you know exactly what I mean and your pride
    just can’t let it go. Enough lefty. Stay to the left.
    Forever. Now….you need to get the last word
    again? Go ahead. There will be a lollipop for you
    upon exiting the comments here.
    Have A Nice Day!

  78. I got an idea, do some research, tell me what percentage of the population was poor when income taxes were at the highest and what percentage when they are lowest.
    There won’t be a significant difference, how un-Christian.

    And by the way, Obama owns the current tax rates, he signed them into law, so at present their Dem tax rates. How un-Christian of him by your standards.

    Does anyone truly believe that if taxes are raised they won’t have to go very far down into the middle class to even make a difference on the debt or deficit. Of course if the Dems control Congress the revenue will be spent.

    Robert Reich is being disingenuous, he knows the difference between income and capital gains, but the folks that hangout at move-on aren’t that bright.

  79. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 9:41 pm |


    You are arguing strawmen again.

    But can tell you that Eisenhower (Republican war hero) taxed the highest earners at around 91%! Yes, you read that correctly.

    BTW…capital gains IS “income”.

  80. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 9:44 pm |


    Uh, no sweetie, I have NO IDEA what the hell you are EVER babbling about.

  81. You said – that Jesus wasn’t even around in the OT,
    and that the bible isn’t literal or have I been conversing
    with talking snakes? To discredit what I stated.
    Yes you do know what I meant.

    As a matter of fact I have been conversing with
    a talking snake…

    Don’t forget your lollipop dear. Hopefully they
    have BS flavor, your favorite!

    Now, enough.

  82. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 17, 2012 at 10:02 pm |


    Get back on your meds Jinxsy.

  83. Class divisions and class hatred are so deep in this country that the President doesn’t dare wear a buttondwon oxford shirt for fear that he will be associated with the oligarchy.

  84. Card-carrying | June 18, 2012 at 1:26 am |

    I’ve traveled ’round this country
    from shore to shining shore
    It really made me wonder
    the things I heard and saw
    I saw the weary farmer
    plowing sod and loam
    l heard the auction hammer
    just a-knocking down his home
    But the banks are made of marble
    with a guard at every door
    and the vaults are stuffed with silver
    that the farmer sweated for
    I’ve seen the weary miner
    scrubbing coal dust from his back
    I heard his children cryin’
    he got no coal to heat the shack.
    But the banks are made of marble
    with a guard at every door
    and the vaults are stuffed with silver
    that the miner sweated for
    I saw the seaman standing
    Idly by the shore.
    I heard the owner saying,
    Got no work for you no more.
    But the banks are made of marble,
    With a guard at every door,
    And the vaults are stuffed with silver,
    That the seaman sweated for.
    I’ve seen my brothers working
    throughout this mighty land
    l prayed we’d get together
    and together make a stand
    Then we’ ll own those banks of marble
    with a guard at every door
    and we share those vaults of silver
    that we have sweated for

  85. Card-carrying | June 18, 2012 at 1:32 am |


  86. Vittorio Affanculo | June 18, 2012 at 3:35 am |

    Great stuff – thanks to B/D Mind, card-carrying and other comrades. Always sweet to hear songs of resistance.

  87. Card-carrying | June 18, 2012 at 5:18 am |

    @Vittorio Affanculo

    Always sweet to remind preppies that they don’t have a monopoly on wearing OCBD shirts and khakis and that their garb has been appropriated by “commonests” with good sartorial sense.

  88. Good to see the real Marxist represented here. :-)

  89. Is there a case to be made that, while it’s true the Look was nearly ubiquitous in the 60s, the 70s were just plain better because of the wider, longer dimensions? “Heyday” can be defined in a variety of ways, I think.

  90. Solidarity among the left here, how inspiring and uplifting !
    Yes how unfortunate though ,that I have had and continue
    to have an uninterrupted life of privilege that your politics
    have not and will not change. Don’t look so sad.
    It’s alright. Why this afternoon I’m going to have an
    official tour of the grandest bank I can find downtown.
    Say hello to the guard at the door,ask him how his day is.
    Admire the marble construction, learn the history of it all.
    Maybe have a tour of the wondrous vaults of silver.
    Magnificent! Join the manager for lunch or dinner.
    Ah, such beautiful weather too. Take Care, may your hatred
    cement your hearts beyond reason or repair.

  91. Rip Van Winkle | June 18, 2012 at 7:57 am |

    Fell asleep when Barry Goldwater was the candidate.
    Just woke up and nothing has changed.

  92. @ Rip:

    Actually one thing has changed:
    Fascists used to refer to liberal democrats as Commies.
    Now they call us Marxists.

  93. What a bore; small minds with completely fixed attitudes, and unable to see it. I think SE’s comment of 6:39 am is interesting though.

  94. A personal bias, Sartre.
    The old Brooks model #204 is spot on.

  95. @S.E. — I grew up in the ’70s and so have the same bias. I have always thought of the late ’70s/early ’80s as a sort of trad “Renaissance,” when original forms were revered but taken to new heights.

  96. Lib Trad
    The reference was to the celebrated folk singer Pete Seeger. Mr. Seeger is not a liberal democrat, he has been an unapologetic communist since his teens. I respect his honesty and his music. Mr. Seeger’s only sins or ignorance has been his being an apologist for communist regimes long after their atrocities have been exposed.

    Who’s this Commie guy? Maybe you could post a reading list.

  97. Interesting that you have a wide spectrum of readers from fascists who call themselves Republicans to Bolsheviks who call themselves liberal Democrats.

  98. Interesting how every time political matters are
    discussed ,here come the lukewarm middle of the
    road moderates to let you know THEY are the smartest
    and wisest of all. They aren’t all to the left or all to the right
    but see the issues of right and wrong ,good and evil, as
    a ridiculous blend of all sorts of combinations! Only when
    you are so middle of the road and non- committed to any
    real conviction and judgment are you worthy of real political
    respect………So don’t turn to the left, don’t turn to the right
    stay in the middle of the road and get run over as history
    ignores you and your playing the traffic cop who says,
    “Nothing to see here, folks just keep moving”.

    The extreme left and right may hate one another
    but at least we – are – honest. There’s no doubt.

    Try again luke warm moderates. Or keep imitating moving
    targets at a carnival that are so easy to hit its not worth
    paying the dollar to do it.

    One more thing. FASCIST?? You mean those who are in
    favor of the government owning private businesses??

    Nobody, absolutely NOBODY has expressed such ideas
    here…..OH, you mean Racist? Is that the word you mean
    simpletons? Than say what you mean. If you think
    Fascist means racist you have proven you are not smart
    enough for political discussion of ANY kind.
    Go ahead, comment again…….unbelievable.

  99. Jinx:

    We mean what I say: People who will vote for Mutt because Adolf isn’t running.

  100. Lukewarm, you are not a moderate. Only insanity would
    compare “Mutt” Romney to a frothing at the mouth insane
    Austrian convincing Germany they could “conquer” the world….
    Nice try lefty. You are trying to make your far left perspective
    seem middle of the road so the further to the right someone
    is becomes more exaggerated to an ignorant observer.
    Why do you even try.

  101. Gentlemen! Gentlemen! Enough is enough!

    There are those of us who read this blog because we are interested in American traditional men’s clothing, rather than in the diatribes between political extremists.

  102. Halliburton | June 18, 2012 at 10:50 pm |


    Are you totally unaware of the fact that Republicans didn’t want to go to war against Nazi Germany?

  103. Halliburton:

    Are you totally unaware of Old Trad’s polite request
    to put and end to this “discussion” clocked in at
    10:43 pm right above your post?

    Yes I am aware all those on the left like you consider
    conservatism evil, consider all those who are on the
    right evil as well. Believe what you want.
    To nowhere and beyond!

  104. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 18, 2012 at 11:29 pm |

    “To nowhere and beyond!”

    Well that about sums up the Jinxster.

  105. Well that about sums up Button down Mind strikes out Ego!
    Will you please just let it go and respect Old Trad’s
    request? Go find amateur night at your local
    dive and entertain the crickets. Stop trying to
    figure out a way to one up me you don’t have what
    it takes. This isn’t a competition. Let it go.
    Enough already.

  106. Button-down Mind Strikes back | June 19, 2012 at 2:26 am |


    “This isn’t a competition. Let it go.
    Enough already.”

    Indeed Jinxsy, indeed.


  107. Old is gold…………….

  108. who cares that Romney inherited money? Yeah everyone with a rich dad is unfit to be president, flawless logic. You are all just bitter. I wish my Dad was as wealthy as Romney’s, doesn’t mean I think Mitt is automatically stupid. The guy created Bain Capital (ever heard of Staples). Maybe you don’t like him/won’t vote for him, but to say he isn’t is successful shows that you are biased and ignorant. By the way this comes from an Obama voter. You people are ruining our party, you sound like a liberal Rush Limbaugh–go become republicans.

  109. Matt Romney sucks!

  110. Wow wow wow Mittens was so handsome! He has that whole tall, dark and handsome thing going on. And despite being 65, he’s still super hot.

  111. Beautiful photos. Mitt Romney is a class act, its too bad that so many Americans are drinking the Kool Aid. One of the things they like to become irate over is that Romney had money, and then they tried to demonize looking nice, and wearing quality clothes.

    Just look at how down to earth they looked up until he was running for president. Obama and Michelle were always wearing designer clothes.

    Classy couple all the way….

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