The Dead End Street


After many years and countless thousands of comments, the most compulsive poster in the history of Ivy on the web, the infamous English troll known as “Russell Street” (among many other online identities), has apparently reached a dead end.

Claiming to more or less control the entire Internet as part of a grand scheme, the troll in question has lost dictatorship over the web forum known as Talk Ivy, finally inspiring an insurrection. As is the case in the absence of a dictator, warring factions have emerged.

If you catch the computer monitor you’re presently seated in front of in the right light, you’ll notice a reflection of yourself. The web is merely a mirror of its users, who can use it for good or ill, depending on their impulses. — c C m

93 Comments on "The Dead End Street"

  1. Ricky Rimmer | May 19, 2013 at 9:12 am |

    @ Christian

    Apt analogy. What is somewhat disconcerting, though, is just how much the worms have turned. And how clearly headless they currently are. I wonder how many will actually now begin to question the Ivy Gospel According to Jim and start to think for themselves?

  2. Christian | May 19, 2013 at 9:15 am |

    Jack wrote:

    “The most despicable man I have ever encountered on or off line in my life.”


  3. Jack Armstrong | May 19, 2013 at 9:22 am |

    @ Christian
    After the almost daily abuse hurled at you from that creep and his forum members, and his predictions of the demise of your blog, today must be a sweet day. Kharma’s a bitch.

    Oh, and “Russell”, two more things: Ivy Style came from the IVY LEAGUE colleges and the Eastern Establishment, and I am NOT “Dan Geddes”.”.


  4. “…and ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.”

  5. Ricky Rimmer | May 19, 2013 at 10:11 am |

    Comment by Robert C Nesbitt — May 19, 2013 @ 9:50 am

    I don’t see any warring factions on FNB in the wake of the troll’s implosion, just unity to evict him.

    Oh, really? And what about his champion Gentleman Jones, and his sidekick Ricardo? Of course because none of them have read anything other than a comic, they don’t recognise the symbolism of these ‘characters’ in the increasingly tedious odyssey of Lord Jim.

  6. I believe he goes by many names and makes up many personalities, but don’t be fooled is all the same guy… After a while I started to tell it was him by his writing style

  7. Good riddance!

  8. Christian | May 19, 2013 at 11:23 am |


    Now that’s funny!

  9. A.E.W. Mason | May 19, 2013 at 11:38 am |

    @ Jazz Man

    Very MI6; he staged a putsch against himself. This set me to wondering whether there is a possible new law practice area called blog law.

  10. Curmudgeon | May 19, 2013 at 12:02 pm |

    Never heard of Talk Ivy.
    Never heard of Russell Street.
    Apparently some readers of this blog have lots of free time.

  11. Talk Ivy is a great resource with great posters – but due to Jim’s mental sickness they have lost many great members: get smart, Steve Mcquenn Fan, brownshoe – to name just a few of the cool posters driven away by Jim’s schizophrenic personality.
    Either they get rid of him now – or the forum dies as all but the most gullible are well aware of the shenanigans and chaos that Jim (whatever his real name is) causes.

    I stopped taking the guy seriously about the 10th time that he claimed to go into Chemo for a tumor treatment – that’s just a step too far for me – this is sad but it’s a longtime coming

  12. Who?

  13. Jack Armstrong | May 19, 2013 at 1:10 pm |


    This is the one and only site you read right? You see what’s going on here and then get back to your busy fulfilling life. What do you do in your free time? Sky diving? Deep sea fishing? Crochet.
    Glad to see though that you took the time out of your busy schedule to comment on a post, you admit yourself, know nothing about.

  14. Christian | May 19, 2013 at 1:19 pm |

    Of course, saying “Who?” and “Never heard of him” as Jack and Curmudgeon have is certainly the greatest possible balloon-pop for this self-inflated egomaniac.

  15. Jack Armstrong | May 19, 2013 at 1:42 pm |

    You’re right about that Christian. That’s why you should avoid linking to his forum.

  16. Christian | May 19, 2013 at 1:46 pm |

    Ain’t his no more.

  17. I agree with Curmudgeon; you fellows need to take a step or two back and pause for reflection. Then we should maybe all try to get out more, and even talk to girls…

  18. I should of course have added, in the interest of balance and correctness, and so as not to offend Max, that those of us who, for whatever perfectly justifiable reasons, do not wish to talk to girls, should feel free to pursue their own predilections…

  19. Jack Armstrong | May 19, 2013 at 3:14 pm |

    I understand you being a little bitchy, what is it not 3 losses in a row? The American Revolution, The War of 1812 and now the Great Internet Ivy War. USA 3, England 0.

  20. Battersea Boy | May 19, 2013 at 3:57 pm |

    The war of 1812 is debatable more like a score draw.
    As for the Ivy internet war, well you were always going to win
    That one as Ivy is American after all.

  21. Well,that guy is a singular man.
    Some month ago on Talk Ivy was a debate about the history of Ivy league style.
    He banned me for some hours and send me this strange message:

    “As you’ll know We contol and manipulate all the specific market sectors of the Internet when it comes to the ‘Ivy’ debate – Trad, Prep, Ivy Style, Talk Ivy, Modculture, Curriculum…. The spin off blogs then mainly fed off those various point of views.

    Are you sure that you are currently on the right forum? I can find you a nicer home elsewhere with no problems…

    You have great input, but you’ve been called a ‘hoho’ five times today on Talk Ivy – You won’t get called that on any other of our projects.

    It’s just an option for you.

    Me, I like you. If you’re ‘Off Message’ on Talk Ivy you could be ‘On Message’ elsewhere very easily. I can use you, no problem.

    I have versy specific intentions for all the market sectors I have created and I want you where you belong to do the most good.

    I don’t need you doing your ‘University’ schtick on my Talk Ivy just like I didn’t need Cardinal doing his ‘Trad’ sctick here – I sent him back to my ‘Trad’ forum and I’d suggest you might be better off on my ‘Ivy Style’.

    Whatever, I always win.

    – Please post this blatent threat to you on the forum to make it clear to anybody left in the world who doesn’t know that my crew are serious and have a plan. I honestly think you belong on my Ivy Style. I can use your input there.

    Your posts are clever, but I don’t want them here. I want them where they’ll have an impact I can use. Mine is a global POV, Talk Ivy is just my club house for my personal friends. If you care about Ivy then be a good foot soldier and go and do some goos for the cause elsewhre. Stay on T.I. with your ‘University’ stuff and you arer never going to shine. It’s just the wrong message for the wrong market.

    Do please copy this on to the forum – I’m very sick of cunts who don’t have any grasp of what I’m doing.

    Best –


  22. If you catch the computer monitor you’re presently seated in front of in the right light, you’ll notice a reflection of yourself. The web is merely a mirror of its users, who can use it for good or ill, depending on their impulses. — c C m

    Picture a man, seated in front of a monitor staring into his soul and one upping his fellow man… is then that you realize you are entering the Ivy Zone.

  23. Harry Palmer | May 20, 2013 at 6:22 am |

    @ Jack Armstrong, the war of 1812 was indeed a drawer, (the White House was left in ashes) and for a great insight into the Revolutionary war read the “Cousins War” , ( btw it was the British not the English) They were two wars we fought thousands of miles away from home , without the help of allies such as France and Holland, whilst we were at war in Europe and it had very little public support back home. We surrendered and went off the make money elsewhere!(India)

    As for the internet war, let’s not forget it was an Englishman who invented the internet!

    Back on topic, I think grown men spend far too much time on the internet bitching about one another, it’s not healthy !

    p.s. how many wars have the USA won without the British as allies? ;O}

  24. Ricky Rimmer | May 20, 2013 at 6:25 am |

    Comment by Pluto — May 20, 2013 @ 1:12 am

    “Are we all sure this wasn’t stage managed? I smell the usual rat.”

    Well, all I smell on that place, Pluto, is fresher air. It’ll take a while to clear the stink of that fellow’s poison, but there are signs that the human beings on there are remembering what it is to be sane.

    In the real world,though, someone ought to alert the authorities that that welfare claimant has a sideline in used clothing and ought to have his benefits cut.

  25. Christian | May 20, 2013 at 6:28 am |

    In light of recent events, the line “Whatever, I always win” is especially entertaining.

  26. @Carmelo (carpu)

    That man is trully insane and the crazy part is that he may actually beleive all that hot air he spews… a trully sad human being, I wonder what the real truth story is?

    Carpu I hope you keep posting – your post are always great –

    As for Jim (or whatever his real name is) I hope he finds the help he needs – which it’s way beyond clothes – the man needs to step away from the internet and sort out/ work his life…

    it’s a new day in talk ivy and im loking foward to it!

  27. FNB website is down. Hopefully the good folks will return one day.

  28. I lurk over there, occasionally post, and I still don’t know who he is.

  29. Jack Armstrong | May 20, 2013 at 7:31 am |

    @Harry Palmer
    I realize we are 2 nations divided by a common language but the word is “draw” not “drawer”. Check your dictionary before the next history lesson, genius.

    Do you mean to say that in addition to being an “arsehole and moron and child molester” he’s a welfare cheat. Lower than whale shit. Approaching 20,000 punches in the face, BTW

  30. Jack Armstrong | May 20, 2013 at 7:48 am |

    Comment by E “FNB website is down”. The rats are leaving a sinking ship. Maybe they’ll start posting over here now. Fabulous. Can’t wait for posters like “The Shooman” and” Gizhou007.” One says he’s visited by space aliens and the other is, well, just crazy.

  31. The website is up and it’s all good – there’s enough space in the interwebs for all of us – t

  32. @ Jack

    Birds of a feather I suppose. I mean JFM never understood that most people just rightly thought he was bat-shit crazy, nuttier than squirrel shit, … you get the idea. Attracted like minded individuals I suppose.


  33. Joseph P. Kennedy | May 20, 2013 at 8:45 am |

    Might I suggest a lobotomy? There’d be no need to hold him at Devil’s Island any longer as he’d be harmless. We could wheel him out every once in a while to enjoy the sun here in Cape Cod in his favorite Sero…

  34. Battersea Boy | May 20, 2013 at 8:49 am |

    As a Brit and a TI member i have never got my head around the whole transatlantic feud stuff.
    To love classic American clothes is to love America as well.I know i couldnt have one without the other.

  35. Ricky Rimmer | May 20, 2013 at 8:52 am |

    Comment by Jazz Man — May 20, 2013 @ 8:39 am

    “The website is up and it’s all good – there’s enough space in the interwebs for all of us – t”

    That’s true, but without the periodic witch-hunt of Christian and ‘Dan Geddes’ to unify Talk Ivy members (and give them something to talk about) will they be able to maintain a conversation and sense of identity over there? Maybe.But have my doubts.

  36. Joseph P. Kennedy | May 20, 2013 at 9:28 am |

    What I’ll never be able to figure out is why Mr. FNB allowed the abuse of moderator power to go on for so long. After all, the promise of Film Noir Buff was that it’d be a place free of the sort of heavy-handed moderator interference with free discussion that had plagued StyleForum and Ask Andy.

  37. Christian | May 20, 2013 at 9:30 am |

    Within two minutes of my posting the comment about his “I always win” line, he emailed me with more ravings about being the web’s great manipulator.

    It’s like Charlie Sheen saying “Winning!”

  38. Ricky Rimmer | May 20, 2013 at 9:42 am |

    Comment by Joseph P. Kennedy — May 20, 2013 @ 9:28 am

    “What I’ll never be able to figure out is why Mr. FNB allowed the abuse of moderator power to go on for so long.”

    Yes, that is THE question, isn’t it? I’ve sometimes toyed with the idea that FNB and JFM are actually one and the same.

    An appalling thought but ….

  39. Jack Armstrong | May 20, 2013 at 10:44 am |

    Comment from yet another sock puppet “Chiltern Street”:”And people wonder why I refused to moderate it anymore…” WINNING !

  40. Christian | May 20, 2013 at 10:49 am |

    “What I won’t be doing is chatting to the general public anymore.”

    The general public thanks you!

    (Let’s get this all out of our system now so we never have to mention him again.)

  41. Jack Armstrong | May 20, 2013 at 10:55 am |

    @Battersea Boy You must be woofboxer then, because he’s the only one I’ve seen there that had the balls/brains/integrity to stand up to the lynch mob mentality. Every thread about “CC” , started by the head nut would send his knob polishers into 5 pages of insults with everything from questioning his sexual preference to racist comments about his girlfriend.

  42. Good grief! @Jack Armstrong et al. – I rest my case.

  43. Roy R. Platt | May 20, 2013 at 11:52 am |

    Is “Russell Street” something like “Julian Street”, a New York reporter who went to Cripple Creek CO and wrote negatively about the saloons and brothels on Myers Street, after which the people of Cripple Creek renamed Myers Street, “Julian Street”? Many other cities in the West followed Cripple Creek’s lead, and renamed their streets that had the most saloons and brothels “Julian Street”.

  44. Jack Armstrong | May 20, 2013 at 12:06 pm |

    @Redcoat I don’t get why someone who is not interested in a post keeps returning to it to tell everyone else how they should get a life. I thought you were “going to try and get out more.. and even talk to girls” What happened? You tried and it didn’t happen for ya ?

  45. Battersea Boy | May 20, 2013 at 12:08 pm |

    Just to set the record straight, no I am not Woofboxer but your observations of him are quite correct Jack.
    Russell Street is the old site of John Simons shop in London and Chiltern Street is the site of his present one.
    A new broom seems to have swept Talk Ivy and there is a chance the forum can go on to great things
    And who knows maybe even normality.
    There has been a lot of mud slinging (mostly one way) and I would have thought it difficult if at all possible for Christian
    To ever trust or have anything positive to say about Talk Ivy. Time will tell but there is always a chance
    We all love classic American menswear and in this world of badly dressed slobs that’s a start.

  46. Joseph P. Kennedy | May 20, 2013 at 7:28 pm |

    Mr. FNB is pleading ignorance…

    “I dont remember anyone spelling out the troubles in either of the main forums. People can always email or message me for an objective and (to the extent that it is possible) discrete look over the situation. Russell Street had mod powers for a long time, he relinquished them voluntarily and he could’ve done a lot of damage that has not come to pass. Maybe he toyed with some personas and ruffled a few feathers but lets not get carried away. Also, multiple registrations are different from the occasional sock. Socks are alright for parody, less so for nastiness. It is Devil’s Island after all.”

  47. Ricky Rimmer | May 21, 2013 at 3:20 am |

    Comment by Robert C Nesbitt — May 20, 2013 @ 11:46 am

    @ Ricky Rimmer

    “I assume that you are same Ricky Rimmer that posted FNB. If so, it’s difficult how you could believe that Jimmy and FNB are the same person.”

    No actually I wasn’t aware that there was a Ricky Rimmer on FNB. Perhaps I saw the name while reading over there and picked it up without realizing it.

    I know it’s hard to believe but an intuition tells me that FNB and JFM are the same person. I hope I’m wrong!

    @ Joseph P. Kennedy

    FNB’s plea of ignorance doesn’t quite convince me. Maybe I’m just paranoid.

  48. “Russell Street was the location of John Simons’ famous “Ivy” store in London’s Covent Garden. John’s new store is in Marylebone’s Chiltern Street. It’s a pity that American “Ivyists” have little knowledge of London’s Ivy scene.”

    Why would anyone care about UK Ivy in the US? What exaclty does the UK Ivy group bring to the table that we in the US are missing? The only thing I see about the UK “Ivyists” are that they are way to into clothes and have become a carricature in costume as oppossed to adding anything relevant to the style we created.

  49. Jack Armstrong | May 21, 2013 at 7:31 am |

    Maybe he thinks Americans should book a flight to London to purchase a pair of his $225.00 chinos.

  50. Or one of Fitzgerald’s grossly overpriced shirts. Who want’s a copy when you have the original with Mercer?

  51. Battersea Boy | May 21, 2013 at 8:45 am |

    I think that’s a bit unfair on Fitzgerald clothiers for high quality shirts produced in the UK the price is very competitive.

  52. Ricky Rimmer | May 21, 2013 at 9:04 am |

    Comment by Battersea Boy — May 21, 2013 @ 8:45 am

    “I think that’s a bit unfair on Fitzgerald clothiers for high quality shirts produced in the UK the price is very competitive.”

    I agree.

    And I must say I find all this ‘I could care less about UK Ivy’ attitude parochial in the extreme. The Street Troll is dead. Long Live Ivy. Unity is strength.

  53. Battersea Boy | May 21, 2013 at 10:45 am |

    Thanks Ricky and you are dead right pal.
    Although always suspicious of the Arch troll I ignored a lot
    Because I love Talk Ivy. He has now had his perceived powers taken away
    And I hope it’s a new era for Transatlantic Ivy/Trad relations.

  54. Competitive? Kamakura can get me an excellent shirt shipped from Japan for much cheaper. Mercer’s delievered is cheaper. I can walk in a BB and get a MTM for just a bit more.

    I’d say it was a more than fair observation.

  55. Battersea Boy | May 21, 2013 at 11:29 am |

    E I didn’t mean competitive for the US market, clearly at that price plus shipping /customs it would be
    Very expensive. Unfair, because for the EU it is competitive ,especially for a small start up business with shorts runs
    And with expensive European labour costs. There is probably not huge profit margins involved.

  56. @ E

    Those options you listed work for you in the USA – in the UK customs charges + international delivery make Fistgeralds a good proposition for the British Ivy aficionado…

    Brooks doesn’t carry their full line in the UK (BTW)

    I love how the British do Ivy and there is no reason why all of us (Trads, bankers, bohos, hipsters, Japan Ivy and British IVY, etc…) not to get along… after all we can all learn from each other…

  57. Christian | May 21, 2013 at 11:38 am |

    Exactly, the yanks can keep reminding the Brits where this style comes from!

  58. Battersea Boy | May 21, 2013 at 11:52 am |

    Cousins and strangers
    I can see that my attempt to have dialogue with people who have much the same interests with regards clothes as myself may be a forlorn one. I hope not, the Ivy League style was born in the USA and it is a part of your culture
    Probably in a way I will never fully understand. But I wear it and I am passionate about them. Should where I was born really matter that much.

  59. Woofboxer | May 21, 2013 at 12:17 pm |

    It has been observed before that there are people in the US who love British clothing and all things British. They might even have an internet forum for all I know (Talk Limey?).The point is, I couldn’t imagine anyone in the UK getting worried about Americans doing that sort of stuff. It certainly doesn’t concern me for one, actually I think it’s kind of nice. In fact check this out:
    Contact me privately if any of you want any advice …..

  60. Christian | May 21, 2013 at 12:26 pm |

    Don’t be daft. Where have I ever denied the English origins of the ingredients of the Ivy League Look?

  61. Roy R. Platt | May 21, 2013 at 1:53 pm |

    Decided to look into the UK “Ivy” scene.

    The person in most of the pictures on the Fitzgerald Clothiers website doesn’t look very “Ivy” (or even “WASPy’) to me, but I would like to hear the opinions of others, particularly about his sideburns.

    At my old school, during what is now called the “Ivy” era, we called a person who looked like that a “greaser”. There wasn’t anyone who looked like that at my old school. We only had “soches (from “social”) who looked “Ivy” and “surfers” who looked like the Beach Boys and spent every free minute at the seaside surfing.

  62. Fitzgerald's Clothiers | May 21, 2013 at 2:18 pm |

    Hi all
    My name’s Henry, I own/run Fitzgerald’s Clothiers. I don’t claim to be the “UK Ivy scene” I just make items that I like in the style that I like. If you have any questions about the shirts or anything else to do with Fitzgerald’s clothiers please do ask. I fully appreciate that the shirts are expensive for someone buying from the US but to have shirts manufactured in the UK in small runs from top quality cloth isn’t cheap. I’m making a smaller mark up than is the norm.

  63. Jack Armstrong | May 21, 2013 at 3:11 pm |

    @Roy R .Platt

    Roy, I ‘ve seen your name here before but I don’t know anything about you or where you’re coming from, and as I posted yesterday I am the last person to follow political correctness. But I can see how someone might take offense to your comments. You say the model doesn’t look WASPy but so what. You don’t have to be white to wear Ivy Style clothes. They aren’t doing an article on the origins of the Ivy League Style they are selling shirts. I don’t think you have to use a blue eyed blonde model to sell BDs. The jacket, knit tie and BD they are trying to sell are “Ivy”. I do agree his hair cut is a 1950s greaser style and isn’t an Ivy League haircut. And I don’t care for the sideburns.

  64. Fitzgerald's Clothiers | May 21, 2013 at 3:15 pm |

    There was no offence taken btw, and it’s just the shirts we’re selling. The jacket is a vintage Langrock of Princeton jacket that I own.

  65. Fitzgerald's Clothiers | May 21, 2013 at 3:17 pm |

    Offense* it’s late here.

  66. Jack Armstrong | May 21, 2013 at 3:30 pm |

    I didn’t mean you in particular Fitzgerald. I meant the usual suspects. The liberal, leftist, progressive, socialist, communists(take your pick) who spend their lives looking for a reason to pull the race card.

  67. I wouldn’t call the Fitzgerald model’s hair a “greaser” hairstyle. Hair tonic or Brylcreem doesn’t make a “greaser” hairstyle. A “greaser” style would be more like the Sharks or Jets or the Fonz or Elvis in the USA. In Britain like 50s and 60s Rockers. I do agree that the sideburns are continental, a little too Valentino-ish.

  68. Jack Armstrong | May 21, 2013 at 3:36 pm |

    On second look you’re right Mac. A real greaser style doesn’t have the side part.

  69. Fitzgerald's Clothiers | May 21, 2013 at 3:38 pm |

    Say what you like about the mans hair, the ladies like him. :)

  70. Mr. Wyllys | May 21, 2013 at 3:56 pm |

    I will never deny the Anglo origins of many things in the Ivy canon…I am myself a die hard Anglo-phile…However, English Ivy adherents don’t strike me as respecting the actual British pedigree of the clothing. The whole thing seems right out of a work of Carroll, or even more chillingly Orwell…The American of upper class origin borrow certain pieces of clothing of British upper class origin, and put a particularly American spin on said garments and create the Ivy League look…Later that same look becomes popular for a short time with a few American Jazz musicians and a few Americans…Meanwhile young working class British youths become infatuated with some aspects of American culture and see the ivy league look, and see it to an extend as not just something seen in “cool” movies and on album covers, but also as a reaction to traditional English culture, and a reaction against the “fogey” or “Toft” (or whatever you want to call it) lookand adopt it, (or parts of it) however in a two plus two equals five situation seem to forget that not only did it develop in the upper class of America, but its embryonic pieces were developed among the the “Oxbridge” elite of their own country, not among working class “Small Faces” fans.

    I may be totally wrong I suppose, But that is just my take.

  71. Comment by Jack Armstrong — May 21, 2013 @ 3:30 pm
    I didn’t mean you in particular Fitzgerald. I meant the usual suspects. The liberal, leftist, progressive, socialist, communists(take your pick) who spend their lives looking for a reason to pull the race card.

    Comment by MAC — May 21, 2013 @ 3:33 pm

    We understand – ‘aggressive homosexuals’, ‘swivel-eyed loons’ – that sort of thing.

  72. G. Jones
    I said nothing concerning homosexuals or loons. If Rudolph Valentino was homosexual, it’s news to me.

  73. Harry Palmer | May 21, 2013 at 11:00 pm |

    Christian, Tweed, Tartan and Shetland sweaters, do not have their origins in England,try a bit further North!

    @ Jack Armstrong, many thanks for pointing out my error, I realiSe that draw is the correct spelling!

  74. Jack Armstrong | May 22, 2013 at 8:46 am |

    I wanted to respond to a comment left by Liam Macdonald here yesterday but it’s gone, presumably deleted by Christian. Mr. Macdonald’s got a brass set posting here, I’ll give him that. He’s been the first dog to attack “Chenners” when his master, Jimmy, said Sic em. Now he comes here talking about Oh I don’t understand this Trans Atlantic feud. And Jazzman, Battersea Boy et al were right there behind him carrying Jims water… CC is in for the money, he doesn’t care about “the clothes”, He doesn’t know Ivy, and insult after insult ad nauseum. But keep visiting this site, it’s good for Christian, and I’m all for greedy American capitalists making money.
    BTW any good threads on Muffy over there lately. The mention of her blog is good for a few pages of sexual innuendo and vile insults. But she’s an easy target for you tough guys being a woman and all. And a rich, Northeastern WASP, all the things you hate so much and are so envious of.

  75. Christian | May 22, 2013 at 8:53 am |

    Liam tried to leave that comment about 10 times, but that’s nothing compared to last fall when we did our “Young Man With A Horn” photo shoot, after which Liam went on a manic 72-hour binge of trying to post the same trolling comment maybe 50 times.

  76. Battersea Boy | May 22, 2013 at 11:14 am |

    Its my fourth and last post on Ivy style.
    I can understand the bitterness from Christian not sure about Jack
    although i have seen some nasty posts from a user of that name on FNB.
    I dont think there will be anymore attacks from talk Ivy ,i think most are
    bored and sick to death of it.Infact the majority always were i believe.

  77. Harry Palmer | May 23, 2013 at 7:54 am |

    Peruse even, before Jack points it out!

  78. Jack Armstrong | May 23, 2013 at 9:32 am |

    Now no one ever took Jim “seriosly” (sic) That reminds me of those German people after WW2 “We didn’t no anything about this.”

    Didn’t you hear the feud is over? I’m done with it. Take it and “the treatment of native Americans” back to FNB. Plenty of kooks there to talk about the evil white man.

    The other day you used the word “drawer” instead of “draw” and then claimed it was a typo… not buying it. You really thought the word was “drawer” didn’t you? What are you in your 30s, maybe 40s and you’ve gone around your whole life saying “drawer” instead of ‘draw”. How many times did you give that boring speech about The war Of 1812 and said it was fought to a “drawer”. Or you’re talking to your friends about the cricket match and you say it was a “drawer”. and nobody says anything because they’re too embarrassed, they just stand there with douche chills. Imagine how many parties you tried to impress everyone with the 1812 war thing. You get to the big finale, “we Brits didn’t lose, it was a ‘drawer’. And people start fidgeting, getting all uncomfortable but no one says anything. then on the way home a couple are talking:
    “Did you hear Harry talking about The war of …
    “Yes! He said “drawer”
    “Holy shit, I thought he did…”
    “yeah, it’s like people who say”supposobly” instead of ‘supposedly”
    “Whatever, at least he didn’t start on the racist Americans treatment of the Indians”
    “Did you see what happened to that British soldier”
    “Yeah, Harry said ‘You really can’t blame those Jihadists, it’s our fault…

  79. Jack Armstrong | May 23, 2013 at 9:33 am |

    I know, “know” not “no”.

  80. Jack Armstrong | May 23, 2013 at 11:12 am |

    My apologies, you all sound alike to me.It was that other pompous ass Hairy Palms.

  81. Roy R. Platt | May 23, 2013 at 11:46 am |

    Although there are few (if any) people who still remember when what some call “Ivy Style” started in America, there are still some of us who remember when “Ivy Style” almost ended in America. “Ivy Style” in America (nearly) ended at about the same time as the “British Invasion” in the late ’60’s.

    Perhaps there might be some “guilt by association” behind some US poster’s posts. I personally do not blame any of the UK posters for anything that any working class boys from the North who lived in Council Flats and whose fathers were on the dole did.

    I am sure that all of the UK posters have always voted Conservative. I am sorry if some US posters have been blaming you for things that were not your fault.

  82. Harry Palmer | May 24, 2013 at 2:06 am |

    @ Jack, believe it or not I don’t stand around at parties talking about the 1812 war, most of us don’t really give a monkeys about it (or have even heard of it), I was merely commenting on a previous post. Although I did have a good conversation with a drunk American Marine in a bar in Munich once, he was giving it the usual ” We saved your arses in ww2″ bollocks, I politely asked him if he had any knowledge of the Battle of Britain which, not surprsingly, he didn’t.

    I explained to him that the R.A.F. had seen off the Luwftwaffe and that the Nazis had realised that they hadn’t a hope of invading us and turned their attentions to the East. This all happened long before Pearl HaboUr after which the Americans came into the war.

    I’m not sure what medication you are on but I suggest you up the dosage!

  83. Harry Palmer
    Wasn’t your cover R.A.F. Squadron Leader Canfield during the Battle of Britain? 😉

  84. Harry Palmer | May 24, 2013 at 4:00 am |

    Well spotted MAC old boy!

    @ Jack Armstrong (which is a good old borders name) I realise that harbour has two R’s in it( and a U ) I aplogise for yet another typo.(I only had a state education)
    However I can assure you that I won’t be discussing this at any parties over the weekend and I doubt very much if my friends will be either.

  85. Battersea Boy | May 24, 2013 at 4:41 am |

    I had said all what I wanted to say and wasn’t going to leave any more comments.
    But as I have never left any negative snipes on this site before as Christian will know from
    My IP and e mail. As a keen historian I have something I would like to state to settle an argument.
    This goes out to all pompous Brits and arrogant Yanks. There was a winner of the 1812 war
    It was the Canadians! The local forces and militias up there fought successfully to preserve their borders. They beat back the US forces time and again and in doing so
    galvanised as a nation. The 1812 conflict was a war fought by kindred people I will add.. So which ever side of the Atlantic you call home put that in your pipe and smoke it?

  86. Harry Palmer | May 24, 2013 at 4:55 am |

    As someone born and bred in Wandsworth (not the prison) I appreciate your style Battersea Boy! (I’m wondering if I know you)

  87. Harry Palmer | May 24, 2013 at 4:58 am |

    @ Jack, yet another apology for my spelling of apologise (I don’t mean the z) anyone would think I’m doing it on purpose………………………

  88. Battersea Boy | May 24, 2013 at 5:00 am |

    Harry I left Battersea in my twenties over twenty years ago and its a very different place now.
    Luckily for me I have had a successful career and could afford to by a nice place in the suburbs.
    However i will always be a Battersea Boy.
    Where in Wandsworth were you from?

  89. Battersea Boy | May 24, 2013 at 5:15 am |

    Before Jack the punctuation & spelling cop sees this Buy for By.

  90. Harry Palmer | May 24, 2013 at 9:48 am |

    BB I was born in Earlsfield (in the front room!) we then moved to Putney via Tooting.

    Back in the 80’s I used to drink in the Latchmere Tavern, I recently met up again with my drinking buddies from that era and we’ve
    pretty much continued where we left off!

    Apologies to CC for taking this way off topic with our South London love in!

  91. Battersea Boy | May 24, 2013 at 11:08 am |

    Christian I know I am pushing my luck and hopefully you will indulge me.
    Harry I was born 10 minutes walk from the Lacthmere and indeed it was a haunt
    Of mine back in the day. A real small world because when I left Battersea I bought
    My first House in Earlsfield and stayed there for Five years. Stay cool brother and keep it Ivy style.

  92. South Kensington Tube | August 13, 2013 at 11:11 am |

    I see the beating of Russell Street aka Topstitcher continues unabated on the FNB site.

  93. Battersea Boy | August 13, 2013 at 11:37 am |

    It’s boring and you are boring South Kensington Tube.You have in the past gone by the names of Chelsea gardens,Worlds End, Chelsea Drugstore Etc.All localised places and nicknames around the SW3 postcode in London ,you are clearly English maybe even RS himself. I am sure no one on this site has any interest in the monotony of it all.You are a Troll that plagues FNB, as well as Ivy Style. why try to stir all this trash up again? Move on everyone else has.

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