Bernie Sanders always reminded me of that old pinko from the ’50s and ’60s, I. F. Stone (UPenn), a fellow traveller in button-down shirts. Why, the blighter was even known to wear tweed jackets. At least he denounced Stalin.
Last winter, 2019, I was leaving a meeting in the Russell building on a really cold day and, as my two associates and I walked past the Capitol Police on our way to the exit facing the Capitol, who was walking past but Sen. Sanders. He was a bit hunched over, wearing a parka over his business suit, and really in a rush, ready to be inside. It is not common to stop senators as you pass them, of course, but everyone knows this senator when he goes by. I just acknowledged him, “Senator,” and kept walking, a little envious of his coming inside vs my going out into the cold.
Your illustration is one of the saddest looking button downs I have seen
in a long time : points too short and no appreciable roll. Reminds me of
the LL Bean version of 30 years ago or some European confection.
Exactly! Blue OCBDs are Pareto optimal – any change results in a worse alternative. Unfortunately,
I’ve gained more than a couple of pounds from the holidays and the coronavirus lockdown, but in better times I’d even go for a slimmer fit. It will probably take me six months to get to the point where they fit again.
I’m rejoicing, not mourning, at the defeat of the odious Sanders. His extreme socialist policies would impoverish America. Old Bernie’s outrageous defence of Castro’s murdering regime in Communist Cuba was both ignorant and offensive to real liberals, i.e. those who believe in liberty and human rights. Good riddance!
What blog is this? I could have sworn it was Christian’s wonderful Ivy Style. But these reader comments are more like twitter assaults on political enemies. Who let the dogs out? No one here wants to read attacks on Sanders, Fauci, or any other public figure. I recommend you all read the post from a day or so ago entitled, “Dressing as a Rhetorical Statement.” He knows how to write about politicians’ clothes and not their politics. Other than agreeing that is not a very good example of a button down collar, these comments are quite disappointing. Perhaps delete the entire thing and start over.
JDV – Hear! Hear! I do wish people could refrain from spewing politics all over the nice clothing. Venomous vituperation directed at strangers for the crime of holding differing views is what Satan created twitter for.
Mac, I might be missing your point but are you saying those of us who do not like political slams on here are PC? or that we need a sense of humor? Say it ain’t so, pls. I have written on here about political figures whom I detest yet like their clothes, and also about those I admire and like their clothes. Have tried to not let political persuasions come through in either.
Every time I see Fauci on television, I cringe: that guy looks better at almost-80 than I look at almost-50. Seriously: whatever program he’s on, I need to get on it too.
As for the other stuff, some people just like to stir the pot I guess. In my experience, “You guys don’t have a sense of humor” and “stop being PC” are the back peddling of someone who was called out for saying something in bad taste. As I often find myself saying to those minimally-educated constitutional scholars who get out their pitchforks when some boob has his t.v. contract revoked: the bill of rights allows you to say whatever dumb thing comes to your mind; it does not prevent people from reprimanding you for actually doing so.
Don’t take descriptions like “slim” or ‘trim fit” too literally. Regent is really for your average guy. Milano is for the skinny guys, Madison and Traditional – “you do the math”. Completely agree that clothing should never be tight or close-fitting. I am average sized, never been accused of being slim, and in fact have a bit of a gut. Yet Regent is slightly baggy on me. Madison and especially Traditional would look as though I were a young boy wearing my father’s shirt.
I suggest becoming familiar with the fits before accusing some of us of being Italian fashion models. If I am ever told I look like one, though, I won’t object.
Thanks, JDV and Paul, for some kind words. Hope all have a good night.
P.S. I don’t know what a twinky is, and don’t think I’ll Google it based on comments from Paul and Sacksuit, but I agree with Mac that the shirt looks pretty bad. Polyester?
Times are tough, and I know my nerves are a bit raw. Assume others are on edge as well. God bless us all on this Passover and Easter.
Twinky is a small cream filled sponge cake. I stand corrected, I meant janky. Walmart is full of shirts from China with collars stitch like that. Full disclosure, I buy white cotton crew socks and shotgun shells at Walmart.
Oh, I like Twinkies with chocolate milk.
A cheap 20 GA. over/under for quail and pheasants. I once owned matching Winchester pigeon grade over/unders, 20 and 12 Ga.. Also, matching Remington 1100 Special Field semis, short barrels w English stocks, very light. Unfortunately my loft was not as secure as I thought in downtown Topeka. Evidently I was a major neighborhood supplier of Sony TVs, 12 speed bicycles, Blaupunkt car stereos, BBS mag wheels & tires, tools, Nikon cameras and even once a Triumph motorcycle. That’s the short list. Live and learn.
Oh, I actually saw a guy wearing my stolen RL baseball jacket I’d purchased in Chicago. Got that back with little hassle, I was sitting at the bar with a cop.
Probably more info than you asked for.
Have a great Easter and stay safe.
If I were to wear just one shirt for the rest of my life – this would be this one from Brooks Brothers in Regent fit.
Bernie Sanders always reminded me of that old pinko from the ’50s and ’60s, I. F. Stone (UPenn), a fellow traveller in button-down shirts. Why, the blighter was even known to wear tweed jackets. At least he denounced Stalin.
Last winter, 2019, I was leaving a meeting in the Russell building on a really cold day and, as my two associates and I walked past the Capitol Police on our way to the exit facing the Capitol, who was walking past but Sen. Sanders. He was a bit hunched over, wearing a parka over his business suit, and really in a rush, ready to be inside. It is not common to stop senators as you pass them, of course, but everyone knows this senator when he goes by. I just acknowledged him, “Senator,” and kept walking, a little envious of his coming inside vs my going out into the cold.
Your illustration is one of the saddest looking button downs I have seen
in a long time : points too short and no appreciable roll. Reminds me of
the LL Bean version of 30 years ago or some European confection.
There’s always hope:
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/15/19/3A671F6100000578-3939050-All_smiles_Some_users_were_upset_that_people_were_only_paying_at-m-2_1479238999314.jpg
Matt,
Exactly! Blue OCBDs are Pareto optimal – any change results in a worse alternative. Unfortunately,
I’ve gained more than a couple of pounds from the holidays and the coronavirus lockdown, but in better times I’d even go for a slimmer fit. It will probably take me six months to get to the point where they fit again.
@Matt – Same.
Brooks Brothers OCBD, Blue, Regent fit. All I really need.
Definitely not Regent (aka Slim)!
Madison (aka Regular) or Traditional (aka Relaxed) are the only way to go.
I’m rejoicing, not mourning, at the defeat of the odious Sanders. His extreme socialist policies would impoverish America. Old Bernie’s outrageous defence of Castro’s murdering regime in Communist Cuba was both ignorant and offensive to real liberals, i.e. those who believe in liberty and human rights. Good riddance!
I don’t like the collar stitching of the shirt image above. It’s a little twinky or continental.
Speaking of Bernie the typical angry commie. So, how is everybody enjoying the free, thirty day trial of Socialism?
I notice that Dr. Anthony Fauci seems to wear nothing but blue buttondowns.
Unfortunately, he wont be leaving the White House anytime soon.
What blog is this? I could have sworn it was Christian’s wonderful Ivy Style. But these reader comments are more like twitter assaults on political enemies. Who let the dogs out? No one here wants to read attacks on Sanders, Fauci, or any other public figure. I recommend you all read the post from a day or so ago entitled, “Dressing as a Rhetorical Statement.” He knows how to write about politicians’ clothes and not their politics. Other than agreeing that is not a very good example of a button down collar, these comments are quite disappointing. Perhaps delete the entire thing and start over.
JDV – Hear! Hear! I do wish people could refrain from spewing politics all over the nice clothing. Venomous vituperation directed at strangers for the crime of holding differing views is what Satan created twitter for.
Linkman,
Thanks for this:
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/15/19/3A671F6100000578-3939050-All_smiles_Some_users_were_upset_that_people_were_only_paying_at-m-2_1479238999314.jpg
Careful, lads. Venomous vituperation directed at strangers is not acceptable here. Only non-venomous vituperation in future, please.
Precisely. We don’t have a vaccine yet.
We have a vaccine, it’s call PC or not having a sense of humor. 🙂
Mac, I might be missing your point but are you saying those of us who do not like political slams on here are PC? or that we need a sense of humor? Say it ain’t so, pls. I have written on here about political figures whom I detest yet like their clothes, and also about those I admire and like their clothes. Have tried to not let political persuasions come through in either.
Oh, well. Carry on then lads. Just not my cup of bile, I suppose.
Every time I see Fauci on television, I cringe: that guy looks better at almost-80 than I look at almost-50. Seriously: whatever program he’s on, I need to get on it too.
As for the other stuff, some people just like to stir the pot I guess. In my experience, “You guys don’t have a sense of humor” and “stop being PC” are the back peddling of someone who was called out for saying something in bad taste. As I often find myself saying to those minimally-educated constitutional scholars who get out their pitchforks when some boob has his t.v. contract revoked: the bill of rights allows you to say whatever dumb thing comes to your mind; it does not prevent people from reprimanding you for actually doing so.
Paul – I believe I read Fauci runs 3 or 5 miles every morning. He does look like he is in fantastic shape.
Mac
I had to look up twinky….holy crap! Wish I could un-see that.
Cheers
Will
@sacksuit – I was going to bust Mac’s chops for using that term, but then I realized that to do so would be to admit that I knew what it meant too.
Don’t take descriptions like “slim” or ‘trim fit” too literally. Regent is really for your average guy. Milano is for the skinny guys, Madison and Traditional – “you do the math”. Completely agree that clothing should never be tight or close-fitting. I am average sized, never been accused of being slim, and in fact have a bit of a gut. Yet Regent is slightly baggy on me. Madison and especially Traditional would look as though I were a young boy wearing my father’s shirt.
I suggest becoming familiar with the fits before accusing some of us of being Italian fashion models. If I am ever told I look like one, though, I won’t object.
“Paul.”
When I read your comments this scene comes to mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od4nSd9AVH8&list=PL8n20otli8seTSIUWdA2I7echgDmCZc1y&index=109
Cheers, BC
I’m very thin and wear the Regent fit for jackets. I haven’t compared fits for OCBDs.
Thanks, JDV and Paul, for some kind words. Hope all have a good night.
P.S. I don’t know what a twinky is, and don’t think I’ll Google it based on comments from Paul and Sacksuit, but I agree with Mac that the shirt looks pretty bad. Polyester?
Times are tough, and I know my nerves are a bit raw. Assume others are on edge as well. God bless us all on this Passover and Easter.
BC: Trading Places is my favorite Christmas movie, and one of my top three all-time movies. (hence my avatar)
Twinky is a small cream filled sponge cake. I stand corrected, I meant janky. Walmart is full of shirts from China with collars stitch like that. Full disclosure, I buy white cotton crew socks and shotgun shells at Walmart.
Oh, I like Twinkies with chocolate milk.
Paul
So you are not Dan Aykroyd? Yes great movie.
BC, thanks for the clip. Dan Aykroyd is the movie.
I’m nervous about having to look up janky.
Will
Mac
Pump action, semi-automatic, over/under?
Will
sacksuit
A cheap 20 GA. over/under for quail and pheasants. I once owned matching Winchester pigeon grade over/unders, 20 and 12 Ga.. Also, matching Remington 1100 Special Field semis, short barrels w English stocks, very light. Unfortunately my loft was not as secure as I thought in downtown Topeka. Evidently I was a major neighborhood supplier of Sony TVs, 12 speed bicycles, Blaupunkt car stereos, BBS mag wheels & tires, tools, Nikon cameras and even once a Triumph motorcycle. That’s the short list. Live and learn.
Oh, I actually saw a guy wearing my stolen RL baseball jacket I’d purchased in Chicago. Got that back with little hassle, I was sitting at the bar with a cop.
Probably more info than you asked for.
Have a great Easter and stay safe.
sacksuit
jan·ky
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adjectiveINFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN
of extremely poor or unreliable quality.
Andrew K.
I wear the Milano fit. I suspect other readers of this blog do as well, but prefer to keep it to secret less they be crucified.
Twinkies (singular: Twinkie) are a variety of snack cake. Twinky means… something else.
To paraphrase Crocodile Dundee – that’s not a shirt; my new BB OCBD – now THAT’S a shirt.