Actor James Garner has died at the age of 86. In 1963 he donned 3/2-roll suit to play opposite Doris Day in the Atomic Age sex comedy “Move Over Darling.” Garner is pictured above in the book “Hollywood And The Ivy Look.” Click here for the New York Times write-up. — CC
I always liked James Garner — he seemed congenial, approachable.
The photo has me wondering. Is there a particular way of tying a tie that is associated with ivy style in its prime? I’m aware of the historical importance of the Duke of Windsor, but I associate windsor knots primarily with people like Donald Trump, and broad-shouldered commentators on football whose tie knots look to be five inches wide. Prince Michael of Kent outdoes even them. Am I way off here?
RJG – You want the four-in-hand knot.
@ Walter Denton
Yes, that’s the one I’ve always used. I guess my question is whether the four-in-hand is an article of faith, like the 3-2 roll, etc. I understand you to be implying that it is. Are there exceptions to the rule as well?
It’s the difference between speaking a language and learning the grammar. I grew up on Brooks, etc., but never knew the names of the finer points until more recently.
And a Bel Air Country Club man! RIP
RIP James Garner. Great actor with so many enjoyable roles.
For the record, Move Over, Darling was released in 1963, not 1967.
I concur, 4ih is the knot of choice here. Not an article of faith, but common practice.
With button-down collar, the four-in-hand is your knot. If you’re in more formal garb, with a different kind of collar, then other options might be appropriate.
Garner was one of the best. A first rate guy. (Is that a black knit tie?). RIP
A four-in-hand knot on a skinny, thinly lined necktie looks like the knot you get when you tie your shoe. Such a knot would look silly with a long-point button-down collar like Mr. Garner is wearing in the picture. His half-Windsor knot was by far the better choice.
Does anyone remember James Garner as Brett (?) Maverick? Maverick was a TV western in the early 1960’s. He was a real dandy in that show. His brother Bart, Jack Kelly, was more rugged. Then, occasionally, they were visited by their cousin, played by Roger Moore, aka James Bond.
For some reason, Maverick’s first name was spelled Bret, not Brett.
James Garner statue in Norman, Oklahoma:
Sorry, here’s the link I meant to send: