Kevin Danyi has lost more Ivy cred than I ever had. If you are unfamiliar, he was profiled here.
He had an experience with Brooks’ Pink Oxford I thought was valuable to share, and maybe start a conversation about pink in general. The color, not the –
Anyway, Mr. Danyi writes in the FB group:
“Many readers of this page, myself included, have been wearing Brooks Brothers pink OCBDs for decades and appreciate the original pink that BB does so well. I have and wear O’Connell’s and J. Press pink OCBDs, but BB pink has always been my favorite pink OCBD (O’C is a little on the dark pink side, although Press is close). For years, these were available in numerical sizes, e.g., 18.5 X 34, giving a good fit for men who wear them with suits and ties, but with the demise of Brooks Brothers as we knew it, this is no longer the case.
Brooks Brothers recently brought back made-to-measure shirts, so I took the opportunity to get an OCBD, in pink, of course. The new, MTM shirt is on the right and I placed a 2014 BB OCBD on the left in the photo. I was going to put a 1988 BB pink OCBD in the mix, but that particular shirt has been a beach shirt for years and is so worn and faded as to be unsuitable for comparison purposes.
The 2014 shirt ($145) was made in the USA, while the 2023 shirt ($205) was made in Vietnam. The color on both is virtually identical and is the Brooks Brothers pink that I have loved since the 1980s. The material is similar, although I think the 2023 shirt is slightly thinner. The buttons are different, with the MTM version having thicker, mother-of-pearl buttons. The fit on the MTM is perfect: in addition to taking my measurements, the BB staff had me try on several different in-store shirt models in different sizes.
The most noticeable difference is the collar and cuffs, and please note that neither shirt has been ironed: they are both right out of the dryer. Even with some allowance for a nine-year age difference, the 2023 shirt has a much stiffer collar and cuffs. The placket (Evan, is that the correct word?) is of the same material as the collar and cuffs, which is different from the body of the shirt. On the 2014 shirt, the material is all the same, which is clearly shown in the photo.
In summary, I like the new shirt, but I question why Brooks Brothers apparently cannot reproduce, in made-to-measure, exactly the shirt which they invented and sold since the 1950s.”
His post was answered by a Brooks store manager, but since it is a private group I didn’t post the answer here. (I got Kevin, who is a friend, to give me permission to post this).
If you would like to join the FB group, you can “apply” here. As long as you answer the three questions and aren’t an idiot, you are in. 🙂